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From: C. Olofson <>
Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 18:17:14
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure

On 05/20/2011 08:06 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
On 05/20/2011 10:22 AM, drew wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:08 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

From: drew<>
Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 16:15:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure

On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 20:59 -0400, drew wrote:


Pushed a new update to the file on the wiki

Some text updates coming from the us_mktg list, primarily the removal of the
secondary line for supported platforms.

(mentioning BSD on interior being one)

Comments, suggestions welcomed as it is never really done, really, it's
just tonights copy.

Hi :)
I still don't see the point of removing or avoiding mentioning that LO can 
run on other platforms, particularly when those platforms don't support MSO.
There are 2 lines that say "The free power-packed, Open Source, personal
productivity suite for:" and the next line misses out saying "BSD" although 
looks as though there is plenty of room to mention it.  There would be more 
if "MS" was missed off the front of "MS Windows".  Are there non-MS versions 
Windows?  Do MS require that MS is always put in front of "Windows"?  (in 
case a vast amount of writing about Windows is in breach.)

Have i missed a day or 2 worth of emails explaining that LO suddenly doesn't
work on BSD?  We tend not to hear from people where things have gone 
and have only heard from a couple of people that have had minor issues with 
on BSD.  I take that as a good sign.  I am not on the devs list so perhaps
people there have decided that LO doesn't work?
Regards from
Hi Tom

No one is saying it doesn't work on BSD - the discussion on the US mktg
list was more to do with "What platforms do you find when you visit the
main LibO site" and in that respect the answer is, these three (win,
linux, OS X). So the idea was to keep the marketing piece in alignment
with the website.

Finally, there is a reason this is done on the open mailing list - so if
you have some specific wording?

Does LibreOffice's web site tell people how to install it on BSD?
Nope.  We don't:
If we do list BSD on the pamphlet, we will need to be read for questions for 
installing it on BSD.
At this point, we're taking our lead from the LibO website.  It mentions only 
the three OSes.
So if there is not references to BSD install, maybe we should say "Windows, 
Linux, MacOSX, and other platforms", with the "other platforms" in the small 
In principle, I like that and that definitely sounds like the way to go.  I 
believe that the Debian project is as popular as it is, in no small part, for 
the prominence they give to being a cross-platform product.  But, I'd rather 
defer that until later.  Reason is, in my opinion, due diligence would require 
us to get marketing, doc & support each to address this statement.
So do we NEED to list all the platforms that LibreOffice can be used on, for 
just the 3 major ones?
I'm pretty sure we already settled on "the 3."
Is there anything else that is blocking our "publication" of our project?
I'll defer to those who've been proofing more closely.


Hi :)
Ok, i think the pamphlet has been ready for quite a long time now.  It's getting 
better but it already was good enough.  Do we need it to be perfect first time?  
I don't believe there is any such thing as perfection.  

I don't think we need instructions for all the different OSes, especially if the 
Dvd is the Windows-only version.  Windows users often need quite a lot of 
hand-holding but often linux users are new to linux so they need help too as 
they still have bad habits and mis-information left over from their Windows 
days.  By contrast Bsd users are likely to already have a lot of unix based 
experience and be fairly used to advanced ways of installing, such as compiling 
from source.  We don't need to scare or confuse non-Bsd users by explaining 
those, especially in a pamphlet for the Windows-only version.  It's enough just 
to mention the platform.  

Or, going the other way isn't it dangerous to mention non-Windows platforms?  Is 
it wise to mention other platforms at all?

Regards from
Devil's Advocate :)
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