Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure

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From: C. Olofson <c.olofson@gmail.com>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 18:17:14
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure

On 05/20/2011 08:06 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> On 05/20/2011 10:22 AM, drew wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:08 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: drew<drew@baseanswers.com>
> > > To: marketing@libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 16:15:04
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 20:59 -0400, drew wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy
> > >
> > > Pushed a new update to the file on the wiki
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/14/LibO-TriFild-Pamphlet-11-05-15-ltr-en.pdf
> > > f 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some text updates coming from the us_mktg list, primarily the removal of the
> > > secondary line for supported platforms.
> > >
> > > > (mentioning BSD on interior being one)
> > > >
> > > > Comments, suggestions welcomed as it is never really done, really, it's
> > > > just tonights copy.
> > > Hi :)
> > > I still don't see the point of removing or avoiding mentioning that LO can 
be
> > > run on other platforms, particularly when those platforms don't support MSO.
> > > There are 2 lines that say "The free power-packed, Open Source, personal
> > > productivity suite for:" and the next line misses out saying "BSD" although 
> it
> > > looks as though there is plenty of room to mention it.  There would be more 
> > > room
> > > if "MS" was missed off the front of "MS Windows".  Are there non-MS versions 
> > of
> > > Windows?  Do MS require that MS is always put in front of "Windows"?  (in 
> > which
> > > case a vast amount of writing about Windows is in breach.)
> >
> > > Have i missed a day or 2 worth of emails explaining that LO suddenly doesn't
> > > work on BSD?  We tend not to hear from people where things have gone 
smoothly
> > > and have only heard from a couple of people that have had minor issues with 
> LO
> > > on BSD.  I take that as a good sign.  I am not on the devs list so perhaps
> > > people there have decided that LO doesn't work?
> > > Regards from
> > Hi Tom
> >
> > No one is saying it doesn't work on BSD - the discussion on the US mktg
> > list was more to do with "What platforms do you find when you visit the
> > main LibO site" and in that respect the answer is, these three (win,
> > linux, OS X). So the idea was to keep the marketing piece in alignment
> > with the website.
> >
> > Finally, there is a reason this is done on the open mailing list - so if
> > you have some specific wording?
> >
> > Thanks
> Does LibreOffice's web site tell people how to install it on BSD?
Nope.  We don't: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/
> If we do list BSD on the pamphlet, we will need to be read for questions for 
> installing it on BSD.
At this point, we're taking our lead from the LibO website.  It mentions only 
the three OSes.
> So if there is not references to BSD install, maybe we should say "Windows, 
> Linux, MacOSX, and other platforms", with the "other platforms" in the small 
> print.
In principle, I like that and that definitely sounds like the way to go.  I 
believe that the Debian project is as popular as it is, in no small part, for 
the prominence they give to being a cross-platform product.  But, I'd rather 
defer that until later.  Reason is, in my opinion, due diligence would require 
us to get marketing, doc & support each to address this statement.
> So do we NEED to list all the platforms that LibreOffice can be used on, for 
> just the 3 major ones?
I'm pretty sure we already settled on "the 3."
> Is there anything else that is blocking our "publication" of our project?
I'll defer to those who've been proofing more closely.

Craig



Hi :)
Ok, i think the pamphlet has been ready for quite a long time now.  It's getting 
better but it already was good enough.  Do we need it to be perfect first time?  
I don't believe there is any such thing as perfection.  


I don't think we need instructions for all the different OSes, especially if the 
Dvd is the Windows-only version.  Windows users often need quite a lot of 
hand-holding but often linux users are new to linux so they need help too as 
they still have bad habits and mis-information left over from their Windows 
days.  By contrast Bsd users are likely to already have a lot of unix based 
experience and be fairly used to advanced ways of installing, such as compiling 
from source.  We don't need to scare or confuse non-Bsd users by explaining 
those, especially in a pamphlet for the Windows-only version.  It's enough just 
to mention the platform.  


Or, going the other way isn't it dangerous to mention non-Windows platforms?  Is 
it wise to mention other platforms at all?

Regards from
Devil's Advocate :)
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