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On 03/23/2011 05:13 AM, Kinshuk Sunil wrote:

I am participating at a regional unconference, here in India, this weekend
and making a presentation about LibreOffice at the event. I tried looking
around for a suitable marketing material but could not find one.

So, I made a "Introducing LibreOffice" presentation from my researches over
the web. The presentation can be seen at:

I will appreciate if someone can take out time to go through it and check if
I am not saying anything wrongly/incorrectly. If this is not the correct
place for this discussion, kindly guide me to the correct platform.

Hello Kinshuk, thanks for sharing your work. A few comments:

- It'd be nice if the presentation had clear licensing information on
each slide, with a slide dedicated to it at its beginning and another at
the end. I'd suggest GFDL but other exist. I don't specially like
CC-BY-SA unless you explain it and don't use NC (my opinion).
- Make sure while talking about the license you indicate clearly where
this presentation is available (Marketing wiki should be the first place)
- Slide #14 doesn't seem to add much. It also has an important mistake,
Draw is not equivalent to MS Publisher and may raise expectations that
can't be met. Same for Base vs. Access.
- 2 slides of history for an unconference seems a bit much. when I
present and explain this bit I simply state 3 highlights:
-- LIbreOffice original codebase is 10+ years
-- Sun bought it originally, and it's been a commercial product that
inherited restrictions and problems of non-free products + business models
-- When Oracle bought Sun they failed at embracing a truly free open
source business model, which precipitated TDF and LibreOffice fork. I
also mention most free open source software projects health can be
directly measured by the community size/participation,
foundation/organization(s) behind the project, and their governance
- Under "Why LibreOffice", it's a bit repetitive. I expect the history
part would cover that, just as I mentioned above
- I believe a critical problem is that a corporation owns the trademark,
and as such has complete control of the project in many ways, you could
cite Firefox as an example. This is (as I understand it) one particular
reason why OOo can't be considered strictly free. Java dependency
(particularly on Windows + Mac platform) may be a better way to explain
the non-freedom bit - I'll gladly stand corrected
- Cloud office doesn't strike me as related to the decision to lauch TDF
+ LibO

As a general feeling, the red fonts and focus on all the Oracle mentions
seems like justification and bashing, when the door should remain open
for them to contribute and we should focus on the positive aspects of
the project. I am not sure how much longer we should put emphasis on the
problems that lead to LibO, instead of focusing on how much common sense
there is in any FLOSS project having such governance (the current one,
and looking forward).

Ah, and one last bit, in the interest of "dogfooding", please do not
publish your presentation on SlideShare only. They still advertise
"uploaded as OpenOffice", and their terms of use add important
restrictions to any content you upload there. This has improved in the
last 2 years (they use to restrict it for personal use, only use Flash,
etc), but remains problematic, or at the very least inconsistent when
you are presenting about free software. Please consider uploading your
presentation to the Marketing section of the wiki, and you can mention
this in your presentation too.

I hope this is useful, and don't expect everyone to agree to every bit
of it - by all means let us know when/if you update the presentation and
when its next version is available.


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