Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fakes

Hi,
When I thought about it, 'simulated' also sounds weird. The manually
formatted headings, list numbers, captions and other items are neither
fake, nor simulated. They are *actual* list headings, numbers, captions,
etc., just done manually, in a way we don't recommend. The software may not
recognize them as such but any reader would.
So I think a more precise description would be 'manually added list
numbers', 'manually formatted headings' or something along these lines.
Cheers,
Mihail

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 12:05 PM Milos Sramek <sramek.milos@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ilmari,
>
> thank you for the link.
>
> I can see that you have changed "label from Fakes to Simulated captions".
>
> That makes sense, thank you
>
> Let's wait for Webate update
>
> Best
>
> Milos
>
>
>
>
> On 29.08.23 11:28, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> > On 29.8.2023 9.43, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> > > I would call it "imitation" or "simulated"/"simulation", it just
> > > imitates/simulates the "proper" numbering.
> > >
> > > In the days of OOo every new feature needed first a confirmed design
> > > document where even the UI-mock-up was presented.
> > > Now we just code - and take care of the UI-repercussions later.
> > >
> > > And as Miloš wrote, it doesn't work for me (macOS 7.6.0.1), while others
> > > do. It is a "fake" check :)
> > >
> > > Lp, m.
> > >
> > > V V tor., 29. avg. 2023 ob 07:17 je oseba Yury Tarasievich <
> > > yury.tarasievich@gmail.com> napisala:
> > >
> > > > That kind of use of the word feels singularly
> > > > inappropriate in the modernworld.
> > > > Likely to cause confusion, even indignation.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, how come your program calls my manual
> > > > numbering 'fake'?? It is 'unautomated'
> > > > numbering, certainly, but 'fake'?
> > > >
> > > > Isn't this taking a bit too much on ourselves?
> > > >
> > > > On 28/08/2023 18:44, Milos Sramek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html
> > > >
> >
> > Sorry, I quoted the help page incorrectly. The help page does not
> > currently mention that there is a check for simulated *captions*.
> >
> > I have submitted a change to the string:
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156238
> >
> > See the code for the checking logic:
> https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/core/access/AccessibilityCheck.cxx?r=8386d8e5#978
> > To see the string in the UI, open the accessibility sidebar panel.
> > Type text that starts with Caption, Illustration, Table, Text, Drawing
> > or Figure
> > Immediately insert an image.
> >
> > Now you should see "Fakes" in the sidebar (without my patch).
> >
> > The check also works, if the image is anchored to the paragraph with
> > the text.
> >
> > Ilmari
>
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