Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [PROPOSAL] New project for dictionaries

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Hi Michael,
Hi toki,

but that's the whole point: getting the actual system easier and include
more contributors.

I have no clear understanding which languages uses which kind of system
and scripts. But as far as I know: many who uses scripts to get the
extensions packed, simply use homegrown / self-made scripts in any
language or simply pack the extension manually.

Do try to get the system running, provide a system (hosted / maintained
by TDF) and everybody would use the same system to create new
dictionaries - it will become superior after time. Additional systems
(e.g. Mozilla based products for the easiest example) can be added later
.

The point about the affix file: I imagined the system more on a much
lower base: Joe Average is computer affine and realized that the system
is based on volunteer work and sends his "customs"/unknown words to the
maintainer (either e.g. a web page, directly integrated within
libreoffice or whatever) and the maintainer (similar to the Language
Administrator in Pootle) decides if it goes in the dictionary or not.

@toki I really hope not that the maintainers do have *NOT* to learn git.
It should be more than an intelligent pootle system. (dunno how that
looks with the affix files, but we will find somebody who can do it - if
we want)

Moreover: that kind of system won't include that much resources (neither
human resource nor server source) to maintain. OTOH we might have
additional many new easy hacks for new developers who want to develop
new "skripts" to create extensions for other plugins or conversations to
other dictionary systems, or the like.

At the moment this is only a discussion if "we" find that useful. If the
"TDF" and volunteers are able to implement that in a technical way, Will
be a completely different story.

Dennis Roczek

Am 27.04.2016 um 23:40 schrieb Michael Bauer:
> Sgrìobh Dennis Roczek na leanas 25/04/2016 aig 15:33:
> > If the maintainers are not responsive (or if the dictionary is
> > abandoned), we actually cannot do anything as long as we have no new
> > maintainer for a fork. If there is somebody willing to overtake the
> > development, then forking of that particular dictionary is indeed a
> > possibility.
> A couple of extra thoughts from an active maintainer of a dictionary a
nd
> the associated extensions.
>
> In general, I'm interested in anything that brings together scattered
> resources and makes stuff more user friendly, be that end users or dev
s
> using it.
>
> - there would have to be some sort of a locale-specific admin system f
or
> active maintainers joining. Crowdsourcing stuff works in big languages
> but if folk start submitting random stuff to a locale like Scottish
> Gaelic or playing with the affix file, that's a recipe for disaster.
>
> - there are different ways in which people maintain their dictionaries
.
> Some edit the text file directly, others build from corpora, in our
> case, we use scripts to build from a dictionary database, which
> automatically generates the .zip/.oxt/.xpi files. One would probably
> have to consider different entry points if ones were to successfully
> attract people from different projects because I would NOT want to hav
e
> to start manually maintaining our file.
>
> - one thing that hasn't been mooted yet would be making some provision
> for easily creating new dictionaries for new locales, something that h
as
> a loc-tech threshold.
>
> Michael
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