Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Language names should be in the target language chars

Þann fim 10.apr 2014 13:35, skrifaði Tom Davies:
> Hi :)
> +1
> That would be brilliant!
>
> I do have a lot of trouble switching between different languages.  Luckily
> for me one of the English ones has (us) after it so i switch back to that
> and then try to figure out which language is really needed.  It might be
> even better if there were 2 columns rather than just one to get the best of
> both worlds.

+1 - could make life easier in many situations...

Or a list with only localized language-names:

Deutsch
Español
Français
Íslenska
日本語
Nederlands
русский

etc..

> Does the list really need to be translated afresh for each release?!!?
>   Surely once done the list stays much the same except for 'new' languages
> that have been added?
> Regards from
> Tom :)

Translators (and coders as well!) can use the ISO-639-files 
from translationproject.org to get translated languages and 
names. Very conservative and quite precise (though not very 
complete for some languages), these are surprisingly widely 
used; any error or omission there will stick around for ages 
in things like website drop-downs, various apps and 
interfaces and so on.

But I guess LO-devs will want to use the onboard solution 
for these.

Regards,
Sveinn í Felli

> On 10 April 2014 11:26, 锁琨珑 <suokunlong@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So far, the language names shown in "Tools - Options - Language
> > Settings" are in the localed language name strings. For example, if you
> > are using English UI, the language listed are "English (USA), English
> > (United Kingdom), Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Tranditional)..."; When
> > you are using Chinese (Simplified) UI, the list shows like "英语 (美国),
> > 英语 (英国), 中文 (简体), 中文 (繁体)..."; when using Japanese UI then
> > the names are expressed in Japanese.
> >
> > I believe those language names should be changed to the target names
> > chars for all UIs, like the language listed here:
> > http://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/international-sites/
> > (see the second column)
> >
> > I am thinking about this because of the following reason:
> >
> >    * It's a waste of time for localizers to translate every foreign
> >      language names to their own locale. Even translated, it may not be
> >      correct.
> >    * In case the users are trying to switch between languages, there may
> >      be confusion (for example, if I want to test something in Franch UI,
> >      and after that I want to change back to Chinese UI it's really
> >      difficult to find the right one in the list box.
> >
> > And there is a corrensponding bug report here:
> > Bug 59901 - UI: Name of each language in target language
> > https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59901
> >
> > Currently the language stings are translatable in pootle. My idea is that:
> >
> >    * The language stings should be made un-translatable, just maitain a
> >      language list in the source codes with target chars; or
> >    * there be guidelines in the l10n wiki page to tell localizers to
> >      translate the language list strings to the target language chars.
> >
> > Best regard,
> >
> > Kevin Suo
> >
> >
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