Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Word "basis" in formulas

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Hello

Em 28-06-2013 07:43, Sérgio Marques escreveu:
> Many strings are badly formed but many of those were written in OpenOffice
> era.

Correct. Long time ago, the english was written by Germans, and carried
many unvoluntary germanicisms. Later, SUN did a review on the strings
and the quality improved.

> Several of them are even incorrect according with ODF formula like the ones
> You stated before.

If I get it right, LibreOffice should comply with ODFF, before it
complies with Microsoft Excel. A review of the functions description can
be set as an easy-hack. Currently I agree that the functions
descriptions in the function wizzard are a bit too terse.

> This could lead to corporate entities not adopting Libreoffice as main
> office app.

That is a shameless excuse. And by the way, you can have english
function names in a local UI. It is an option for Calc.

> Of course translators can always change strings not respecting the original
> ones but many of entities tend to use English language due to
> localization errors. 

I am suprised on this statement. I don't see it in Brazil at all.

On a side note, I noticed ODFF had in the past funciton not available in
Excel. At the translation time, I had to create a new name for the
function. Later the function was introduced to Excel and, gess what?...
with another name. I was asked by the community to change the name to
comply with Excel... Rats!


I do this in Android system. In this case all I can
> say is that sometimes translations are better than original strings.
>
> Regards
>
> 2013/6/28 Mihovil Stanic <mihovil.stanic@gmail.com>
>
> > Just wanted to point out that descriptions in formula fileds are very
> > vague.
> > For example in a lot of formulas you will find field "Basis" with
> > description "The basis".
> > https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**
> > libo_ui/scaddins/source/**analysis.po/translate/#unit=**29745859<https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/scaddins/source/analysis.po/translate/#unit=29745859>
> >
> > Someone who tries to use that formula for first time will have a hard time
> > finding out what does that field do.
> > I'm re-translating all formulas since some of them were totally off so I
> > found out what that fielddoes and increased number of words in translation.
> > Good english description should look something like this: "Basis for
> > determining number of days in a year".
> >
> > There are a lot of other strings which are very vague and need better
> > description.
> > If someone will act on it, I can report strings I find and suggest better
> > description. But since noone from LO reacted on last 2 reports I'm guessing
> > this isn't interesting.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mihovil
> >
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