Re: [ANN] Please use Gerrit from now on for Patch Review

On Wednesday 20 of June 2012, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 02:55:53PM +0200, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> >  If you don't want people to miss important information, you need to
> > announce it properly and not as some offhand remark.
>
> A mail with "ACTION REQUIRED" in the subject is not an offhand remark.

 It is, if it doesn't clearly say why the action is required.

> Having called it out with vigor in the ESC multiple times, for example
> here:
>
>
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/michael-meeks-suse-com-minutes-of-ESC-
> call-td3942653.html
>
> is _not_ an offhand remark.

"
* Use gerrit ! test it / give it a hard time (Bjoern) 
        + the repo there will never get merged back, 
          so play and try to do evil stuff. 
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/
        + Norbert to merge change-id tweak to git-hooks 
"

 Besides, is every committer required to study ESC minutes?

> The only thing less "offhand" I can do, is 
> writing on planet.documentfoundation.org that the gerrit installation is
> ready to go.

 No. Announcing something properly means announcing it in the right place 
(this list), under an appropriate name and with clear description (such as 
saying the important part in the first paragraph or at least saying it 
clearly).

 Your blog or blog aggregator fail the first one, because not everybody reads 
that. So until this thread, there has been only one announcement that was 
sent to the right place that I can remember, where the name was so-so 
("ACTION REQUIRED" is good, but "getting setup for gerrit" is not if you 
don't tell people what gerrit is) and the description was fail ("we will move 
to gerrit soon" doesn't mean much without futher info, and the remark about 
losing commit access was easy to miss where it was). So in practice you have 
just dropped a solution on us without saying much about it.

> Incidentally when I did that, we got a >30 post flamewar on 
> the list.

 If there weren't problems with communicating this, why the three biggest 
subthreads start with Caolan's "why gerrit?", Kendy's "how the new workflow 
is supposed to look like?" and Petr's "first need to conclude that gerrit is 
in usable state"? This thread is here for a reason.

-- 
 Lubos Lunak
 l.lunak@suse.cz