Re: [PATCH-3-5] fdo#35270 - kill first-use grammar checker freeze ...

Hi Daniel,

On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 19:11 +0200, Daniel Naber wrote:
> now that this is fixed I searched the archives for the reason LanguageTool 
> is not enabled by default. The slowness you talk about in [1] does not 
> sound like general Java overhead, it sounds like exactly the issue that has 
> just been fixed.

        Indeed ! :-) good to have that nailed - thank you.

>  Were there other reasons LanguageTool is disabled by default? Should this
> decision maybe re-evaluated now?

        So - there is/was of course, also the Java issue - that the JRE is not
present on many machines, whereas we bundle our own python runtime. That
can lead either to the horrible user-experience of complaining about
missing JRE's on first-start, and/or simply silently disabling those
components, or worse moaning about JREs as the user types which is not
that pleasant either. The other issue that windows Java downloads were
advertising the competing openoffice project in the past seems also to
be fixed now.

        I guess many Linux distribution (where Java is ubiquitous) ship
languagetool, though no doubt having lightproof also enabled by default
presents some issues there. There is a minor licensing issue around the
MPL vs. LGPL.

        Personally, I'm looking for a good, consistent out-of-box experience,
and (given the size of our download) am not really over-eager about
packaging / bundling an OpenJDK for windows.

        Beyond that - I've no idea :-) presumably there are philosophical
differences between lightproof and languagetool that I'm not clued-up
on. It'd be interesting to hear what Laszlo & you think about it, and
other people's views on the list ...

        What hope is there for sharing work, rules, etc. ? could we (for
example) have authoritative languagetool Java code, and use one of those
java2py things to compile it to python ? [ crazy thoughts of course ].
Would that offend the minimal modus operandi of lightproof ? could that
light mode be made an option ?

        Thoughts on clever technical solutions much appreciated :-)

        Thanks !

                Michael.

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