Re: [libreoffice-design] Styles - thread on styles vs direct format

On 2025-08-06 12:08, Eyal Rozenberg wrote:
> Example 1:
>
> Properties set to values relative to an underlying style:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127702
>
> that applies to DF just as well as to a character styles.
>
> Today, if you have text in a style with font size 12pt, and you DF the font size of some word to 15pt, then 
> change the style to some heading with 20pt - you'll keep your 15pt from the DF, even though now it's smaller 
> rather than larger than the paragraph baseline. But if you were to DF your font size to be "125% of 
> underlying", and you change the paragraph style - you would now have 25pt.
>
> Example 2:
>
> Application of multiple styles simultaneously:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149271
>
> so you could possibly change just "some" of your style, not all of it, potentially reducing 
> destructive interaction with DF.

Funny: 30-year-old WordPerfect got these right - likely because its styles were not categorical (like 
"Paragraph", with it panoply of attributes to be instantiated, and those attributes often 
specifiable only within a Paragraph style). For example, a font size style was relative (Larger, Smaller), 
and a block quote style could specify spacings and margins irrespective of fonts.

The SO/OO/LO decision to be a Word work-alike imposed certain costs, like the styles model. It may 
be impractical to rethink that decision, but is probably useful to keep these models in mind as we 
work out solutions.

John

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