Re: [libreoffice-design] Terminology modifications to Paste Special format

Okay, so let's go with the simple solution of just the format name without further explanation.

* Unformatted text -> Unformatted text
* Bitmap -> Bitmap Image (BMP)
* Drawing format -> %PRODUCTNAME drawing format
* DDE link -> Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE link)
* DIF -> Data Interchange Format (DIF)
* GDI metafile -> Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
* Formatted text [RTF] -> Rich text formatting (RTF) 
* Formatted text [Richtext] -> Rich text formatting (Richtext) 
* HTML (HyperText Markup Language) -> HyperText Markup Language (HTML) 
* HTML format -> Stripped HyperText Markup Language (Simple HTM) (Or "Stripped HTML" if this string 
is too long)
* PNG Bitmap -> Portable Network Graphic (PNG)
* calc8" -> "%PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION Spreadsheet" (without Calc8 short name)


On 05.04.2018 23:14, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Hi.
> Can only offer an opinion from the other side of the world.
> I added some comments below but wonder if the text should hint at when to use or avoid a format.
> I.e. BMP = uncompressed, large files. I don't see PNG in LO 5.4.5. Paste Special menu.
>
> Either that or use the actual names so the user can easily search the differences.
> Bitmap Image (BMP)
> Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
> Portable Network Graphic (PNG)
>
> If there is lots of room
> Bitmap Image-uncompressed (BMP)
> Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
> Portable Network Graphic-compressed, lossless (PNG)
> HyperText Markup Language-Web format (HTML)
>
> steve
>
> On 06/04/18 01:22, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > based on the request at tdf#89453 I made a patch for the formats in the paste special dialog. 
> > And since this text is on a very prominent position, I'd like to get more agreement.
> >
> > The new text should follow the convention <descriptive text> followed by the <short name> in 
> > parenthesis. For example, "Rich Text Format (RTF)" is slightly better than before with brackets 
> > but still not too informative for ordinary users.
> >
> > The most important changes as follows with Old -> New + Comments
> >
> > * Unformatted text -> Plain text (Unformatted)
> > * Bitmap -> Compatibility-optimized image (Bitmap)
> > * Drawing format -> %PRODUCTNAME drawing format
> > * DDE link -> Reference only (DDE link)
> > * DIF -> Text with standardized formats (DIF)
> >
> > * GDI metafile -> Screen optimized image (GDI)
> >    + Samuel: needs perhaps also a dash after "screen"
> >    + Cor: misleading, it's a vector format, designed for Windows, Windows EMF, that allows for 
> > using
> >      the Windows GDI, Graphical Device Interface?
> >    + Heiko: maybe "Windows vector format (GDI metafile)"
>          + Steve: "Windows vector format" could be confused with WMF.
>              "(GDI) enables applications to use graphics and formatted text
>                on both the video display and the printer".
>               GDI is not just vector and pastes bitmap images.
> > * Formatted text [RTF] -> Rich text formatting (RTF)
> > * Formatted text [Richtext] -> Rich text formatting (Richtext)
> >    + Samuel: original is good enough (for both)
> >    + Heiko: common but not according the convention
> > * HTML (HyperText Markup Language) -> Web formatting (HTML)
> >    + Samuel: I would just call this HTML, that's a common term
> >    + Heiko: common but not according the convention
> > * HTML format -> Simple web formatting (HTML)
> >    + Samuel: What exactly does this do in comparison to the HTML above?
> >    + Heiko: no idea, the internal format is SIMPLE_HTML (and it's not shown in the usual list)
> > * PNG Bitmap -> Cross-platform optimized image (PNG)
> >    + Samuel: This sounds weird. Maybe "Image (PNG)"?
> >    + Heiko: the cross-platform thing might be interesting relation to Bitmap
>         + Steve: I have found .bmp and .jpeg to be widely cross platform.
>            Portable network graphic is not so descriptive.
>            Compressed, Lossless and Transparency are distinguishing features.
> > * calc8" -> "%PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION Spreadsheet (calc8)"
> >    + Heiko: same for impress8 and draw8; calc6 adjusted too
> >    + Adolfo: never heard of “calc6” and “calc8”. What do they mean? Could these terms be better?
> >
> > More details at the patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52336/ and the ticket 
> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89453 (including screenshots how it may 
> > look).
> >
> > The final decision to push the patch should be made in the design meeting next week.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Heiko

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