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Hi.
Can only offer an opinion from the other side of the world.
I added some comments below but wonder if the text should hint at when to use or avoid a format. I.e. BMP = uncompressed, large files. I don't see PNG in LO 5.4.5. Paste Special menu.

Either that or use the actual names so the user can easily search the differences.
Bitmap Image (BMP)
Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
Portable Network Graphic (PNG)

If there is lots of room
Bitmap Image-uncompressed (BMP)
Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
Portable Network Graphic-compressed, lossless (PNG)
HyperText Markup Language-Web format (HTML)

steve

On 06/04/18 01:22, Heiko Tietze wrote:
Hi all,

based on the request at tdf#89453 I made a patch for the formats in the paste special dialog. And 
since this text is on a very prominent position, I'd like to get more agreement.

The new text should follow the convention <descriptive text> followed by the <short name> in parenthesis. For 
example, "Rich Text Format (RTF)" is slightly better than before with brackets but still not too informative 
for ordinary users.

The most important changes as follows with Old -> New + Comments

* Unformatted text -> Plain text (Unformatted)
* Bitmap -> Compatibility-optimized image (Bitmap)
* Drawing format -> %PRODUCTNAME drawing format
* DDE link -> Reference only (DDE link)
* DIF -> Text with standardized formats (DIF)

* GDI metafile -> Screen optimized image (GDI)
   + Samuel: needs perhaps also a dash after "screen"
   + Cor: misleading, it's a vector format, designed for Windows, Windows EMF, that allows for using
     the Windows GDI, Graphical Device Interface?
   + Heiko: maybe "Windows vector format (GDI metafile)"
         + Steve: "Windows vector format" could be confused with WMF.
             "(GDI) enables applications to use graphics and formatted text
               on both the video display and the printer".
              GDI is not just vector and pastes bitmap images.
* Formatted text [RTF] -> Rich text formatting (RTF)
* Formatted text [Richtext] -> Rich text formatting (Richtext)
   + Samuel: original is good enough (for both)
   + Heiko: common but not according the convention
* HTML (HyperText Markup Language) -> Web formatting (HTML)
   + Samuel: I would just call this HTML, that's a common term
   + Heiko: common but not according the convention
* HTML format -> Simple web formatting (HTML)
   + Samuel: What exactly does this do in comparison to the HTML above?
   + Heiko: no idea, the internal format is SIMPLE_HTML (and it's not shown in the usual list)
* PNG Bitmap -> Cross-platform optimized image (PNG)
   + Samuel: This sounds weird. Maybe "Image (PNG)"?
   + Heiko: the cross-platform thing might be interesting relation to Bitmap
        + Steve: I have found .bmp and .jpeg to be widely cross platform.
           Portable network graphic is not so descriptive.
           Compressed, Lossless and Transparency are distinguishing features.
* calc8" -> "%PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION Spreadsheet (calc8)"
   + Heiko: same for impress8 and draw8; calc6 adjusted too
   + Adolfo: never heard of “calc6” and “calc8”. What do they mean? Could these terms be better?

More details at the patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52336/ and the ticket 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89453 (including screenshots how it may look).

The final decision to push the patch should be made in the design meeting next week.

Cheers,
Heiko



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