Re: [libreoffice-design] New default fonts

On 02/20/2016 03:47 AM, toki wrote:
> On February 19, 2016 5:03:59 PM PST, Tim wrote:
>
> > Personally, I think you cannot have any font that has "everything" for  "everyone's" needs.
> Three or four core fonts, and an extension similar to the one that optimizes LibO for Japanese, for 
> then 40 or so writing systems that LibO supports. Let the font junkies and  the grammatologists 
> install all of those extensions.
With Linux, I have the MS core fonts package installed, plus many more 
font names that I have used for a long time:
[not in any real order]
Linux Biolinum, Linux Libertine, Liberation, Arial, Garamond, DejaVu, 
Caslon, SourceSansPro, Times New Roman, Vegur, Century Schoolbook

> > I really thing we need to have a good/free unicode font that has many
> > of  the characters/glyphs that are available.
> Unifont is libre and covers most of the Unicode 7.0 glyphs.
> IMNSHO, its biggest flaw is its weight.
> Its lack of slant and type options are also flaws.

I do not remember Unifont [by name] until I looked it up.  I think I 
looked into it a number of years ago, or some other font like that.
I do have Arial Unicode installed [I cannot remember how long I have had 
that font].

Here is the text from the Unifont web site [reformated for this email].

    The Standard Unifont TTF Download:
             unifont-8.0.01.ttf (12 Mbytes)
    Glyphs above the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane:
             unifont_upper-8.0.01.ttf (1 Mbyte)
    Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane with CSUR PUA Glyphs:
            unifont_csur-8.0.01.ttf (12 Mbytes)
    Glyphs above the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane with CSUR PUA Glyphs:
           unifont_upper_csur-8.0.01.ttf (1 Mbyte)

Did you install all four TTF files?
> > LibreOffice [14+ GB worth of TTF and OTF fonts].
> I see two major issues with that many installed fonts:
> * Windows takes forever and a day to start;
> * Finding the right font is extremely difficult;
>
> I have no idea how many fonts I have. My laptop claims an impossibly high figure.

I do not have the 14+ GB fonts installed.  My collection is stored in a 
folder, on my Ubuntu 14.04LTS desktop 6 TB storage drives, that has most 
stored alpha-named folders or in folder named by style [i.e. 
handwriting, dingbat, or other descriptions] or by the actual font name.

For me, I do not know how many font names I have since most of them have 
several TTF/OTF files for the bold/italic/etc. styles.


> > I do wish LO can find a set of the best freely available fonts to
> > bundle  with LO's installations, but that is really easy to say and not easy to.
> +1
>
> In an ideal world, each L10N / i18n team would create an extension tbat installs the best libre 
> fonts, along with other useful tools for the language(s) they target.
> EG: Isreal l10n extension would include fonts,  the Nikkud placement extension, along with Hebrew 
> dictionary, and grammar checker.
>
> > is being used for, or how long it has been since I last looked as
> For most people, for most purposes, more then three font families is too many.
> Within font families, more than 25 fonts is usually excessive.
>
> Translating that into LibO:
> * Unifont: font family #1: only one font is offered;
> * Gentium: font family # 2: either 3 or 4 fonts are offered;
> * Courier: font family #3: only be font is offered: This is a monotype font.
>
> Those 6 fonts work for the majority of use-cases for Latin writing systems.
>
> jonathon

A lot of my installed fonts on this laptop, are scripts/handwriting and 
fonts that are more decorative ones like Cast Iron, Black Chancery, 
Gallery, Broken Glass, Fanfold, Headhunter, and a lot of other names 
that I use for making signs and posters for a few not-for-profit groups 
and organizations.




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