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Hi Bastián, all,

Bastián Díaz wrote on 18-10-15 16:14:
El 18-10-2015 05:28, Cor Nouws escribió:
Incidentally I thought about this control this morning (we looked at it
at a NL_LibreOffice meeting yesterday).
I like the current improvement and think it can be extended, so that in
the side bar you can chose (at least):
- show (thus edit) properties of style or text as displayed.
and (maybe):
- allow choosing paragraph or character styles (or all styles) with the
little icons, as in the styles and formatting panel..
and when we are that far ... also choose between style properties and
style list...


It looks very interesting, but again I think you try to add a new way of
"apply styles". So I think I would support redundant and improve the
current tab of styles and formatting on the sidebar.

If you talk redundancy, that could also be an argument to not at all
have "Apply style" on the properties panel?

On the other hand, I do not dismiss the idea. You can use improved
drop-down menu in the toolbar (perhaps a new toolbar styles) or include
it in a mad idea of single toolbar, google docs-style.

IMO the drop down "Apply Style" in the Formatting tool bar already is great.

Of course then we need more vertical space (extra controls above the
styles drop down, and a separator below + an indicator showing: edit
style properties / edit text (direct) formatting or somesuch.

Then the whole panel could maybe renamed from
"- Properties" to "- Formatting",
the upper sub panel "- Styles" and the next one (below a new 'separator'
"- Properties".

It seems that mine may be a false impression, but with the use of IT
sidebar, relate the "Properties" tab with "direct formatting" contrary
to the tabs "Styles and Formatting" with ... styles.
I would not want it to break.

That is part of the discussion: as we do want to improve the use of
styles, then offer them handsome in the Side Bar. Hence they appeared on
the panel Properties in the first place.

This would improve working with styles. You see immediately what you're
changing.

Right, but the sidebar has a different workflow. Not always visible and
also the same tab, the contents of the sidebar can be hidden. For these
cases kept the formatting toolbar, but it is better to renew the sidebar.

See: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94427

I see little relation - but that may change if I understand the idea better.

(Additional notes
- the only reason I have a toolbar active, is that I can see/use the
"Apply style" list.

ditto. If that's your approach, you might want an improvement in the
toolbar. docs google toolbar for LibreOffice.

- would be great if that control in side bar could (eventually) also be
accessed with Ctrl+F11. )

Ideas?
 
[...]

Cheers - Cor


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