Re: [libreoffice-design] Remove SplashScreen

On 10/04/2015 09:04 AM, Bryan Quigley wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips <ypharis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/03/2015 11:42 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> > > On Friday 02 October 2015 16:46:39 Bryan Quigley wrote:
> > > >    * Most other apps aren't using splash screens anymore.  None of the
> > > > other apps on my Ubuntu desktop have splashscreens
> > >
> > > Gimp has a splashscreen, just to mention one
>
> For comparison on my test "slowed" VM*.
> Gimp takes 16 seconds (w splash screen)
> And those without splash screens take:
> Firefox takes 10 seconds
> Gedit take 3 seconds
> Cheese takes 7.5 seconds
> Shotwell takes 3.7 seconds
> Rhythmbox takes 5.3 seconds
>
> I can't believe I forgot to mention that LibreOffice on cold boot
> takes 6-8 seconds to start, and on reload takes 3-5 seconds.  There
> might be about a 1 second saving having no splash screen on cold
> start, but again I don't have enough significance or accuracy in the 6
> (3 each) boot tests I ran.

The loading of any of these apps will also depend what other apps are 
running or loading. I did a cold boot of LO and it took between 10 to 20 
seconds on my 2007 laptop on Windows or Linux.

> > > On the pro side
> > > * Splashscreen offers an easy way for branding
> Imagine the marketing story - LibreOffice is now so fast that it no
> longer needs the splash screen.
> On my machine that is already true, as LibreOffice takes maybe 1-2
> seconds to load.  Is their a consensus for the number of seconds where
> it's pointless to have a splash screen?

For users who only see the splash screen for 1 to 2 seconds, it doesnt 
take away from them to see it appear for those few seconds. Even on a 
fast machine, there are instances when the splash screen will appear for 
more than those few seconds, e.g. cold boot LO while you are compiling LO.

> > > * Slow maschines should be taken into consideration
> What if showing a splash screen makes these old machines take 14
> seconds instead of 12?  I'll see if I can find a real slow machine to
> test it on, but would certainly be interested in others results here.
>   Ideally we would want to find a machine where LibreOffice takes
> longer than 15 seconds to start on..

If a user is waiting 10 to 15 seconds for LO to load and the splash 
screen is there for most of that time, it wouldnt be a problem for the 
splash screen to slow down the load by 1 or 2 seconds.

> > > I'd vote for a configuration switch, if at all, which is on by default.
> So the status quo is that you can add --nologo to the libreoffice
> command to have no splash screen.  Is that what you are all agreeing
> to?

Yes either it be done with a commandline switch for commandline users 
and through an option in Tools > Options > General for gui users.

> Kind regards,
> Bryan
>
> *My slowed VM is just Ubuntu running a VM with only 400 or so MBs of Ram.

My laptop - Intel Core 2 CPU @ 1.83Ghz and 2.5gb.

Regards,
Yousuf 'Jay' Philips

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