Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

Hi K-J,

K-J LibreOffice píše v Ne 14. 12. 2014 v 18:57 +0100:

> > > > 2) what categories do we define
> > >
> > > Authors of the templates propose the category, we'll then define the
> > > final categories according to the templates that arrive :-)
>
> Should we define some rules? E.g. branding or so?
> Specified rules should be adhered to. So every template which brokes the 
> rules should not be voted on.

Nope - we want to unleash the creativity :-) - and let's see what do we
get...

> > > > 3) who decides/votes
> > >
> > > The Design team at one of the weekly hangouts.  The decision process
> > > will be simple - for each template that arrives, either a general
> > > consensus on the given template, or it is not included for 4.4.0 (and
> > > can be re-evaluated for later inclusion).
> >
> > I had thought we would make it really inclusive (i.e. inviting everyone
> > to vote); is it not desirable?
>
> I don't think that it is a good and community friendly choice to vote at 
> one of the weekly hangouts. I'm e.g. not able to attend.

Please see my other mail (to Charles) for explanation.  This is not to
exclude anybody, but to be able to decide in the short time we have.

> The last big vote (4.0 branding) was (on my opinion) a real desaster: A 
> hurry-up voting and discussing at Google+, stopped by BoD, after that 
> voted at google docs (). The winning object broke the defined and 
> branding rules (which is up to now not solved in a good way).

I believe an overall branding is something completely different than
this - for the default branding, a larger consensus is necessary, and
needs the marketing people involved, indeed.

But there will be more templates (we are not talking about the default
template you get when you start Writer) that you can choose from, so the
only criteria is that they are not offensive, and they are not utterly
ugly (and we can increasingly improve them too).

> > > > 4) deadline and scheduling.
> > >
> > > Needs to happen in time for RC2 (beginning of January), so that there
> > > is still chance to do changes for RC3.  Of course, if any good
> > > templates arrive later, they'll be still appreciated, and can be
> > > included in later versions (4.4.x).
>
> I don't think that we have to hurry so. We shouldn't do it.

So far the problem that we have no templates included was completely
hidden by the terrible user experience to start document with a
template; so there were little complaining about the lack of the
templates.

This is not the case any more with the new 4.4 feature that was a result
of GSoC - now we have the [Templates] button right in the start center,
and showing an empty list is much worse than showing 2-3 templates
there; and yes, I do hope that we'll get at least 2-3 good templates
even on the short notice :-)

Definitely we can (and should!) do more for 4.4.1 - but we should at
least attempt to get as much as possible already for 4.4.0.

Hope this makes some sense - and as explained in the other mail, don't
worry, your voice will be heard :-)  Also I hope that you'll find some
time to design a template or two too, would be awesome to have something
from you.

All the best,
Kendy


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