Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

For this reason is a very good solution to offer two choise, because a 
lot of people think that the old style is unusable.

2014.03.20. 15:32 keltezéssel, Kracked_P_P---webmaster írta:
> I hate MSO ribbon menu system.
> I had to work with it last week and it was a battle to find what I 
> needed in Word 2010.
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> On 03/20/2014 04:43 AM, Nagy Ákos wrote:
> > Maybe one solution is that make the same think, that do Kingsoft Office.
> > Kingsoft office, in installation procedure offer two skins:
> > Classic - with menu, and LO style icons
> > Ribbon Style - with ribbon menu
> >
> > and in Ribbon Style offer a Sidebar (Taks Window) too, for styles, 
> > shapes, etc.
> >
> > Professional users, who use menu, templates and advanced formating 
> > options, leave the actual desing, and for users who like ribbons, 
> > modern design, and local formatting, offer a ribbon menu.
> >
> >
> > 2014.01.28. 18:06 keltezéssel, Mirek M. írta:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > Ever since we've adopted the sidebar, we've had issues with duplicate
> > > panels [1]. Worse yet, the sidebar brings yet another UI element to 
> > > look
> > > through for commands. This might not sound like a big problem, but this
> > > makes our already hard to use UI even harder to use, and is bound to 
> > > get
> > > worse as the sidebar develops.
> > >
> > > I'd recommend to read through the usability problems Microsoft found 
> > > with
> > > its Office task pane (which was very much like our sidebar):
> > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/archive/2006/04/03/567261.aspx .
> > >
> > > So what should we do?
> > >
> > > I've been a big advocate of having a single place where to look for
> > > commands. (That, by the way, is the single biggest advantage the Ribbon
> > > brought to MS Office [2].) In our case, that place would be the 
> > > toolbar.
> > >
> > > My proposed solution would be to split the sidebar into individual 
> > > panels
> > > (e.g. Properties, Formulas, Custom Animation, Slide Transition, 
> > > etc.) and
> > > add buttons for launching them to the relevant toolbars. This would not
> > > only solve the problems of panel duplication [1], but it would also add
> > > context to the individual panels. For example, the Slide Layout and 
> > > Slide
> > > Transition buttons would appear in the Slide toolbar. The Functions 
> > > pane
> > > could appear when clicking the functions button in the formula bar.
> > > Properties could easily replace all the toolbar buttons that currently
> > > point to the relevant formatting dialogs. And we already have 
> > > buttons for
> > > Styles, the Gallery, and the Navigator.
> > >
> > > In any case, it's imperative that we do something about the problem. We
> > > can't afford to dig ourselves even further in terms of UX.
> > >
> > > [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73151
> > > [2] "The Ribbon is the starting point for all functionality." --
> > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/archive/2005/10/11/479586.aspx


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