Re: [libreoffice-design] Cleaning up the default toolbars

Hi Mirek,

Mirek M. schrieb:
> Hi everyone,
> Now that we want to bring a new icon scheme to LibreOffice and make large
> icons the default, it'd be good to make the top toolbars a bit more compact
> as well.
> In particular, I was thinking we could condense the standard toolbar enough
> to share a row with the formatting toolbar.

I don't think that it is possible, because the style and font drop-down 
lists are rather wide. But there are indeed some candidates of icons, 
that can be dropped totally. Unfortunately different users will consider 
different icons as being unimportant.

> As a first step, I would propose to create a drop-down menu at the end of
> the toolbar, similar to that in Google Chrome or elementary applications
> [1]. This menu should hold all the items that we determine not to be
> important enough to show all the time, but useful enough not to be hidden
> by default. At the end of the menu, there should be a "Customize..." entry,
> so that people who have gotten used to a certain button being shown all the
> time can bring it back easily.

That feature is already there. Decrease the width of the application 
window, so that the toolbar is wider than the window. You get an arrow 
at the end of the toolbar. The real problem is, that this does not work 
in between. If you have two toolbars in one row (e.g. the standard 
toolbar and the find-toolbar) then the first one uses all place it can 
get to show all of its icons. It is not possible to restrict the width 
of a toolbar to a fixed value.

> This menu should be easy enough to implement, I hope. If a developer wants
> to do more, he could implement aligning toolbars to the right or
> drag-and-drop for easy customization, but it's not a necessity right now.
>
> What do you think?

I would like to have standard toolbars that are as similar as possible 
for all modules. That would not be possible when mixing it with the 
formatting toolbar.

The formatting toolbar depends on active context. With active picture 
you have another one than in simple writing mode or with text edit mode 
of graphics.

People like to handle toolbar position different on large screens and on 
small netbooks, for example put the standard toolbar to the left on 
netbooks.

So no, I do not like the idea of merging the toolbars. I would more like 
it, if I could fix the width of a toolbar.

Kind regards
Regina

> [1]
> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/ui-toolkit-elements/toolbars/appmenu


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