Re: [libreoffice-design] User research, Icon-Testing et al.

Mirek, Astron,

once again thanks for your input. We have changed the registration texts - 
some nice formatting and checkup with the OPEN KNOWLEDGE FOUNDATION still 
stands out.

Just wanted to say, perhaps you would like to take another try :) - I am 
really thankful for any comments!

Cheers,
Björn

Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012, 18:17:21 schrieb Björn Balazs:
> Hi Astron,
>
> Am Dienstag, 19. Juni 2012, 02:11:27 schrieb Stefan Knorr:
> > Hi Björn,
> >
> > > Concerning my motivation: it is not marketing. I care about Free
> > > Software.
> > > I think this service is simply another peace we need to solve the big
> > > Free- Software-Puzzle. It does happen to legally belong to a company and
> > > it might make money (tm) but most importantly it follows and serves
> > > Free-Software principles.
> >
> > Making money is always a laudable goal for a business. ;)
>
> I simply wanted to make the point that this 'product' is not the way my
> consultancy makes money. It is basically the result of my (mostly) voluntary
> work in Free Software. As there was nothing out there, I decided to start a
> new project, which I am OpenSourceing right now. To put it in the company
> simply makes things (like handling money) easier for me.
>
> > > > What exactly is meant by "unless I stated something different before"?
> > > > Does
> > > > that mean I can put proprietary data on UserWeave as long as I've
> > > > released
> > > > it elsewhere under a proprietary license before I joined UserWeave?
> > > > (I'm sure it doesn't, but given that this is a legally-binding
> > > > agreement,
> > > > this phrase should be worded differently or taken out altogether.)
> > >
> > > There is a potential long term business model (tm). The idea: people
> > > that
> > > want to use the service can pay for not having their data released and
> > > published. This money shall be used to to finace the development and
> > > hosting of the software under the best of Free Softwares principles. But
> > > it will always be free of charge for projects working in the open. So
> > > this "state"ment is meant to refer to this potential business model. I
> > > will have to think about rephrasing it. I have been talking to some open
> > > knowledge foundation guys before, perhaps they can help.
> >
> > Please do think about rephrasing it. For instance, if we upload (other
> > people's) icons there, this will create a huge licensing issue for us.
> > It can be hard to track down everyone who's worked on an icon and it
> > will be even harder to convince them to relicense their icons "just" for
> > research.
> >
> > > Maybe you could ask for people to use an "OSI-approved open source
> >
> > license"/"GNU-approved free license" instead and just default to CC-by?
>
> Thanks for pointing me to this misunderstanding. I actually do not want to
> affect the license of things that get tested (e.g. Icons). People uploading
> them should be aware that they need to have the right to use them. The whole
> licensing issue should only affect things that get actually produced on
> UserWeave, like surveys, personas etc.
>
> So sorry for the misunderstanding here. As it is FreeSoftware and I am not
> really the best person for legal stuff - anyone around with a good idea how
> to get this right?
>
> Hope that clarifies it all a bit!
>
> Cheers,
> Björn
>
> > Astron.
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