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Thanks, Ricardo - you bring up an excellent point regarding "the user".
 However, that is beyond the scope of these Tenets.  My only goal for these
is to provide a general direction for us when going through the researching,
prototyping, and final development of any kind of UI overhaul for LO.
 Research without aim rarely makes an impact.  Once we have a specific set
of improvement goals for LO, we can start performing more in-depth research
of our users.  However, for the interim, I think we need to come up with a
single, generally-agreed (>80% of long-term end-users), good layout proposal
then refine exactly where/how actions go/behave through continued research.
 This is one major advantage we have over MS Office - we can release minor
updates which would include UI enhancements both frequently and quickly
based on user feedback, which makes our refining process significantly
easier.  Of course for the duration of the UX redesign, we would also permit
users to continue using the old UI as we complete work on the new one.
 Possibly, the best way would be to call the new redesign 4.0 or 5.0 (or
another major revision) while keeping the old UI as the lower version number
(3.* or 4.* or whatever it winds up being).  In the long run, this kind of
short-term refining would make LO a far better product than it is today.

Thanks for all the input - keep it coming!
Scott


On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 02:46, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com> wrote:

2011/6/17 Scott Pledger <scottpledger2005@gmail.com>:
Hey all,

One thing that I've noticed is that we have a lot of great redesign
proposals floating around, but we have yet to establish a true direction
for
the Libre Office platform.  Someone recently posted this video (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9kD693ie4 ) which really made me
realize
the importance of having specific long-term goals for software design.
 Therefore, I wanted to propose a few simple goals that I think
LibreOffice
ought to have for its design as we move forward (maybe even for the 4.0
release)  as well as the basic tenets that I think we can use to help
achieve these goals.  So, here we go:

*The Goals:*

  - *Make LibreOffice easy to use while retaining its power.*  This is by
  far one of the biggest complaints I have when I suggest that my clients
use
  LibreOffice - they don't understand where things are in the
  menu/toolbar hierarchy.  The best example of this is page margins.  The
  easiest way for a lot of my customers to find this is through the
  right-click menu.
  - *Lead current trends in technology, don't just follow.*  LibreOffice
  retains a layout that was first commercially phased out about four
years
  ago.  While the Menu/Toolbar paradigm is an excellent way of displaying
  program features for less fully-featured software and smaller screens,
but
  let's face it - most desktop screens are no longer small and
LibreOffice is
  extremely full-featured.  Instead of copying another office suite,
let's
  pave the way for others to build on.
  - *Help people to be more efficient.*  This is really important if we
  want to get LibreOffice used in more businesses and schools, and is
  ultimately the best way to get any piece of software adopted.

*The Tenets:*

  - *Allow users to focus on the content, not the UI.*  The document
  viewport should never change size or lose/gain visibility due to pop-up
  dialogs or toolbars.  The only exception to this is menus, as users
expect
  these to overlap their document.  One major subset of this should be
live
  previews.  For instance, you have to click through Headings 1-10
  individually to see what the differences are.
  - *Everything should be accessible within 3 clicks, not just the 'most
  common' features.*  This will help reduce the clutter while increasing
  users' mastery of the software.
  - *Consistent UI areas (not features) across all individual 'apps'.*
  Keep the UI as consistent as possible without sacrificing the
  features/functionality of any individual app (Calc, Writer, etc.).
  - *Value context over comprehensiveness.*  Users don't need to have
table
  tools up and at the ready when they only have text in the body of a
document
  selected.

Let me know what you think of these and, in particular, how you would
change/expand on these.  This is just a very very rough draft (and very
well
could be repeating itself or incomplete) of things that I see , but
ultimately LibreOffice isn't any one man's software, but rather
everyone's,
so I invite everyone to put some thought into this and please reply to
this
so we can come up with a general UX direction for this incredible
project!

Scott


I only have one comment to your e-mail: you use the word "user"
several times, but THE user is something impossible to define.
It is a fact of life that you cannot please everyone, and a great
design for some people will be a disaster for others so first of all
we need to define the "user CASE".
An invoice is not the same than a technical manual, and a technical
manual is not the same than a scholar's essay full of old ligatures
and typographical variants.
So ideally we would need a UI flexible enough to adapt to as many user
cases as possible, then identify the elements needed for each user
case, "group" those elements on different "user case UIs" and finally
provide a way to switch from one user case to the other.
That's a HUGE, almost impossible task...
The alternative (but I think it should be the chosen path) is to
provide a flexible enough UI that it is easy to configure and have a
"reasonable" (yes, we need to define "reasonably") set of default
values to start from so each user can quickly build what they need
without effort and without costly "learning curves".
Cheers
Ricardo

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