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Sveinn í Felli

On 03/24/2011 08:31 AM, skrifaði Sveinn í Felli:
On 03/23/2011 05:50 PM, skrifaði Rob Cummings:
Yeah, I'm still not seeing the problem in Inkscape. I was
able to
import the .AI file and output the following:


Was about to attack the .AI file myself ;-)

A bit wired: opening this SVG
<> in
Inkscape everything is grouped to death; entering the 13th
subgroup of one object gives me a real gradient fill
(radialGradient4085). Which seems to have alpha channel.

So just a little bit of cleaning should render the file usable.

BTW, Smart objects/layers in CS5 are just a sort of
interchangeable OLE objects for CS.
Suppose they're exported as bitmaps for anything else than
CS5 'native' formats (thus it did work exporting through .AI
in this case, the .PSD gave nothing). Illustrator gradient
object in a Photoshop file are probably rendered/exported
with PS binary blends while being editable as vector
gradient in Illustrator.

A bit like if an editable Calc table in a Writer document
would be reduced to a dumb table if exported/read in any
other file format.

Thanks Rob

Sveinn í Felli

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Hillar
Liiv<> wrote:

I don't get the svg problem.
Is this as it must be?:
This is how the inkscape shows it to me.

Firefox have some
problem showing it correctly, IE shows it right.
Maybe there is problem with Illustrator which don't
handle SVG correctly?


2011/3/23 Nik<>

Hi Crew!

I've just spent several hours trying to solve this
problem and delved
deeper into transparency settings in vectors files than
I knew existed (it
gets VERY deep) and created more than 10 files which
produce varying degrees
of failed transparency. I'll keep at this tomorrow, but
I've updated the
problem section with the problematic SVG as well as a
link to a pristine
Illustrator file;

And in answer to Christopher, I wouldn't usually burden
this list with
proprietary formats like PSD and AI but this is a
special circumstance.
Besides, the /tool/ isn't important, it's the
contribution that counts, not
the vendor. I'm pretty sure the developers wouldn't turn
down a script
written using Aptana rather than Eclipse =)

On 3/23/2011 11:23 AM, Rob Cummings wrote:

There's a spray can tool in Inkscape that allows you to
paint a pattern
composed of a vector shape. You can change the
parameters to randomize
placement, scale, rotation, etc. Using one shiny new
as the original pattern, it's actually quite simple to
reproduce the
pattern. The only thing it doesn't do is randomize the
alpha, though the
original pattern shape can use a gradient with
transparency values. Using
shapes with different overall alpha values could get us
what we want.

Hi Rob,
I used similar tools in Illustrator to begin with, but
to achieve a
harmonic result, it requires a lot of manual shifting
and adjusting, it
actually took a lot of time to achieve a composition
that sat well
(balanced+organic). In any case, the randomizing of
Alpha is the important
part and the only problematic part so far. The vectors
and placement are
intact, as are the shapes/colours/scale/rotation.
Hopefully it won't come to
having to re-create the composition. I'll keep at it, if
all else fails, I
can provide the vectors alone without alpha and we can
layer them (in a way
that would be less effective than the current screening
alpha, but is better
than nothing). Thanks for helping with this! =)

I can try a couple things, but it won't be until
tomorrow morning (eastern
US time).



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