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On 03/23/2011 05:50 PM, skrifaði Rob Cummings:
Yeah, I'm still not seeing the problem in Inkscape.  I was able to
import the .AI file and output the following:


Was about to attack the .AI file myself ;-)

A bit wired: opening this SVG <> in Inkscape everything is grouped to death; entering the 13th subgroup of one object gives me a real gradient fill (radialGradient4085). Which seems to have alpha channel.

So just a little bit of cleaning should render the file usable.

BTW, Smart objects/layers in CS5 are just a sort of interchangeable OLE objects for CS.
Suppose they're exported as bitmaps for anything else than CS5 'native' formats (thus it did work exporting through .AI in this case, the .PSD gave nothing). Illustrator gradient object in a Photoshop file are probably rendered/exported with PS binary blends while being editable as vector gradient in Illustrator.

A bit like if an editable Calc table in a Writer document would be reduced to a dumb table if exported/read in any other file format.

Thanks Rob

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Hillar Liiv<>  wrote:

I don't get the svg problem.
Is this as it must be?:
This is how the inkscape shows it to me.

SVG: Firefox have some
problem showing it correctly, IE shows it right.
Maybe there is problem with Illustrator which don't handle SVG correctly?


2011/3/23 Nik<>

Hi Crew!

I've just spent several hours trying to solve this problem and delved
deeper into transparency settings in vectors files than I knew existed (it
gets VERY deep) and created more than 10 files which produce varying degrees
of failed transparency. I'll keep at this tomorrow, but I've updated the
problem section with the problematic SVG as well as a link to a pristine
Illustrator file;

And in answer to Christopher, I wouldn't usually burden this list with
proprietary formats like PSD and AI but this is a special circumstance.
Besides, the /tool/ isn't important, it's the contribution that counts, not
the vendor. I'm pretty sure the developers wouldn't turn down a script
written using Aptana rather than Eclipse =)

On 3/23/2011 11:23 AM, Rob Cummings wrote:

There's a spray can tool in Inkscape that allows you to paint a pattern
composed of a vector shape. You can change the parameters to randomize
placement, scale, rotation, etc. Using one shiny new green-gadient
as the original pattern, it's actually quite simple to reproduce the
pattern. The only thing it doesn't do is randomize the alpha, though the
original pattern shape can use a gradient with transparency values.  Using
shapes with different overall alpha values could get us what we want.

Hi Rob,
I used similar tools in Illustrator to begin with, but to achieve a
harmonic result, it requires a lot of manual shifting and adjusting, it
actually took a lot of time to achieve a composition that sat well
(balanced+organic). In any case, the randomizing of Alpha is the important
part and the only problematic part so far. The vectors and placement are
intact, as are the shapes/colours/scale/rotation. Hopefully it won't come to
having to re-create the composition. I'll keep at it, if all else fails, I
can provide the vectors alone without alpha and we can layer them (in a way
that would be less effective than the current screening alpha, but is better
than nothing). Thanks for helping with this! =)

I can try a couple things, but it won't be until tomorrow morning (eastern
US time).



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