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Hi Nik, all!

On 19-02-2011 12:40, Nik wrote:
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But there is a problem. These design elements made sense on the icons;
- Coloured outline: a folder lining
- Pale inner border: depth of paper-stack
- Radial gradient: top-lighting of pile
- Clipped corner: from our logo
Yeah, you're right. These elements are not part of a motif, they are just styling elements, not related to a own concept. I absolutely second it; we actually need a motif.

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I propose the following timeline because it is necessary and because I have heard a few people (Johannes? Paulo? Jaron?) suggest they may be available soon. - *2 or 3 days* to discuss on this list ideas about what the motif should be. What the "perception" should be.
- *1 or 2 days* to design a vector composition
- *1 day* when Bernhard+Christoph+Ivan (as the most-active and senior members of the Design list) decide on 1 motif
- *1 day* to refine as per feedback.
So this could be all done in a week if we are agile.
Ok, starting from now with some thinkings of mine on some concepts that come to me when thinking about LibreOffice: (Notice: I'm not a design professional, I never studied design and all my knowledge come from [few] experience and reading. So if I'm saying bulls**ts, please correct me).

- As a portuguese native speaker and english reader, the word Libre is easily recognized as Livre (Free, In freedom), and Office makes me think about programs related to the office work (not properly the "office" ambient, since in my language it's called "escritório" - very different). Flying in these concepts, I imagine a program that allow you do everything you want for a office job, or still a program that is not limited by nothing (have no limitations).

Some concepts came from our Logo:
    * *Freedom*
    * *Independence*
    * *No limitations*

Since these are some concepts achieved with the logo, we could focus the motif in other concepts we would like to express (of course, no forgiving these ones). As a recent member of this community, I think this project have the follow concepts to express:

- *History*: This is a project with many experienced people, with a large historic of participation in StarOffice and/or OpenOffice projects. Now they are in the new LibreOffice, but his experience came from these past projects. LibreOffice is not a childish project. - *Revival*: Although its experience, the life led the OpenOffice people to start a new project, with new people, new face, new directions and fresh air. - *People*, *Community*: The most important thing in a open source project are the people. They are actually the project. The contributions, the opinions, the hard work, the personal growth, the challenges. All these things are lived by the people, not by the software itself. And the LibreOffice is one of the best examples.

An additional concept I strongly feel, but may be just me:
-*Imagination/Creativity*: The white/empty paper in our logo gives me a huge desire to draw something in that, or writing a good text, express some crazy equations or everything else my imagination can create! It's a mysterious element which inspires me good feelings.

[...] In the mean time, I strongly recommend that the fund-raising banners be made *IN AS SIMPLE A WAY AS POSSIBLE!* So that they do not hint at a Design/style that we will not adhere to long-term, or create a perception of a Design direction which has not already been decided.
Yeah, I second this. :)

I would really appreciate if some of the Design leadership (Bernhard, Christoph, Ivan) commented on whether they thought this plan is feasible. Or updated it with times that are more appropriate.
I think their help will be highly needed, with very helpful opinions or good designs, as usual.

Hi Paulo and Christoph,
I will work on some Community banners seeing as how they are urgent.
I think Paulo can work on the same thing without "doubling" our efforts seeing as how multiple banners are needed.
Whaddaya reckon?
Apart from the Whaddaya word (a challenge to translate, Nik :P), I think it depend if we will use the new motif in these banners or they are even most urgent. (I believe you explained it on your message, but I didn't find it now). I was thinking to start working in some ideas today, but I'm not sure anymore, since my research group is asking for me.

Thank you so much for leading this topic, Nik! I agree to everything you said and I'm sure we will see a great Community's work in the process end.

~Paulo

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Paulo José O. Amaro
Computer Science Student
Federal University of São João del-Rei
WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior
Blogger / casatwain.com

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