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Hi Tobias,

Sorry, just now I saw your email.

On 10-02-2011 19:54, Tobias Bernard wrote:
hi

i've seen your libreoffice-ui mock-ups some time ago and really liked
them;)
Thank you! They was a great way to discovery this nice team and finally help some way the open source community.
by the way, what's happening there? is someone currently working on a
new ui?
No... But there's another guy called Mirek Mazel who is doing a great progress in this direction. You can find his work in http://clickortap.wordpress.com <http://clickortap.wordpress.com/> . I personally think the next releases (for a long time) will not include a total refreshed UI. But I hope that some features proposed by Mirek and we all will be progressively included in the track. :)

<http://clickortap.wordpress.com/>
concerning the faenza icons:
maybe i didn't explain well. what i meant wasn't changing the whole
format to faenza style. i like the document symbol as basis for the
icons and think it's perfectly suitabele for that.
the reason i linked the icons was to show what i was meant with black
border/colored sheet.
Yeah, I got it for the first time... Looking back again, I don't know why I spent so many words on Faenza icons, hahaha. Maybe the hurry... I think the current icons will stay for the next months, but is ever cool have possibilities to choose, so if you have time to spend in your own proposal, feel free to work on it. Also you may think about to help one of our current projects listed in http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Work_Items. Help is always welcome. :)

i like the icon proposal you linked with the colored icons. i'll work a
bit on that.
This was the Bernhard proposal <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals#By_Bernhard_Dippold> [1] in the early steps. The SVG file <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_icons_draft.svg> exists [2], but don't seems to be updated. Maybe
Bernhard can send you his last version.

See you. :D
~Paulo


[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals#By_Bernhard_Dippold
[2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_icons_draft.svg


greetings
tobias


Am Donnerstag, den 10.02.2011, 05:22 -0200 schrieb Paulo José:
Hi Tobias!

First I want to wish you a warm welcome! I'm sure you'll have too many
good experiences and learnings as I'm having since I recently became
part of this group. :D

About change the mimetype icons, I believe that Christoph's words
already expressed all my thinking about it. If you have a look in the
past wiki archives, you'll find many proposals and different ideas that
came from all community and they grew up and evolved to the current
icons. But, as everything in the open source world, propose new and
refreshing ideas is ever welcome; since they add improvements based in
past experiences.

Personally, I'm a fan of Faenza icon set and i'm using it under Ubuntu
there are some months already. But I think the Faenza's don't fit very
well with others icon sets, since they have its own "look and feel"
(seems a lot like IPhone icons...). And we must to keep the most of
nativeness in every platforms. So I think the choice for using the
symbol from The Document Foundation is a accurate decision to stay on.
And I think it include to keep the borders around the document symbol.

On your other suggestions, I personally think pictograms are really
great in small icons, when you need say something accurate in a small
space. But in the big icons they seems a bit out of place, giving much
less information than they could/should. The fine artistic details are
one of the best things I see in the Faenza icons. But I agree with your
third suggestion. Some color (maybe less saturated than your first
proposal [1]) would make the icons more vivid and friendly. These days
I'm back to my work, so I'm unable to try this, so if you could, it
would be great. :)

I hope to see you doing more suggestions, showing more proposals and
helping us like you're doing. :D Thank you for your interest!
~Paulo

[1] -
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/3/31/LibO_icons_draft.png

On 08-02-2011 13:37, Tobias Bernard wrote:
hi

first of all, i'd like to say that i love libreoffice and would like to
help you guys in some way.

these days, i've read that the new libreoffice icons are going to look
like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9MZR46ZEuS8/TURcYGZPRkI/AAAAAAAAAuE/si2R_93DT_M/s1600/New256pxIcons.png

i don't know if the icons will remain that way, but personally, i don't
like how they are now. In my opinion, the main problems are:
- the colored border: it's fine for blue and green, but yellow and
orange look really bad
- the pictograms inside the sheets: too comlex, too many colors that
don't go with the border color

so, my major suggestions are:
- leave the border black/grey for all the icons
- choose some simple, monochromatic pictograms for the single programs
- maybe color the inner part of the sheet, instead of the border

i did these faenza-inspired libreoffice icons, because i didn't like to
see the openoffice faenza icons on my gnome-desktop. When you see them,
you'll have an idea of what I mean.
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=138257

if that's possible, I'd like to help improving the icons, which i think
don't have yet the style they deserve.
i work with inkscape and gimp on ubuntu maverick.

greetings
tobias bernard


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