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Hi Christoph, all,

Christoph Noack wrote:
Hi Mirek, hi Bernhard!

Am Donnerstag, den 13.01.2011, 19:33 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.:
2011/1/13 Bernhard Dippold <>

Here is the result:

I like it. +1

A great start, but I'd like to add some thoughts as well. When I tried
to collect some of the symbolism ideas, I've noticed that the new icon
theme in LibO does not show any gear wheel :-( Instead, the icons there
are a funny mix of everything ... so there is a need to decide whether
to keep or not to keep the gear wheel.

I don't know where the menu icons derive (Tango?), but you're right: 
We should be (or at least become) consistent.

This is what I've added to the wiki page: "The tango icons don't use a
gear wheel for the macros. Sometimes it looks like a stack of paper, a
piece of paper with syntax highlighted code, or a rectangular "play"

So, if the gear wheel might be hard to identify, how about
using/overlaying this play button? Personally, I think there is enough
differentiation to media files. Up to you ...

I'm not quite sure - the play button is heavily connected to media in 
my *personal* perception. Bu this doesn't mean anything in general.

This topic might be a very good starting point for preforming user 
surveys (if this is possible with not too much effort): Present 
different symbols for macros and find out what they think about them.

The longer I am looking at the (large) icons, the more I'd like to
propose to use thicker lines for the code ... but then it gets (maybe
too) similar to Writer.

That's been my problem - together with the intention to present not 
only the different colors, but the typical structure of loops and case

This is rather impossible with thicker lines.

And I didn't go away from the gear wheel as main symbol - the 
syntax highlighted text was meant only as second level symbolism.

And, if I remember correctly, once you mentioned the terminal window
surrounding that code. Did you try that (maybe you did, and there were
good reasons to omit that)?

No I didn't. 

Together with window borders and a few buttons (of course <play>, 
perhaps <procedur step>, <single step> and <stop point> [don't know 
the correct English translation]) this might become a design that doesn't
need the gear wheel at all.

But I don't know how this will work in small scales (only the buttons?).

If we do a survey ...

At the moment I'd like to stick with this design, if nobody objects.

When we've finished a first version of the other icons, we can come back 
on this again.

The gradient on the gear wheels is still too dark (should be the same as
the document border), but I have to stop for tonight.

I uploaded the source again to the known destination, linked from the Icon
wiki page: (I updated the present work status)


Currently, I'm not sure what icon to pick tomorrow - maybe Math, or
maybe Draw. Although I've spend too much time with Impress today, so
something different helps to "tidy up" my mind. If anybody of guys wants
to work on that, just let us know (on the list).

If you start the Math icon: I had an idea of combining the symbol(s) with a
smaller area for syntax input at the bottom - similar to the actual Math window.

Don't know if it works - just wanted to let you know...

Best regards


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