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Le 2011-06-21 06:00, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

drew wrote on 2011-06-20 22.09:

Well, it seems to me that the action item I had from May was to explore
how much work (or of a hassle) this would be.

 From Florian's responses I would say - a good bit.

That and given the fact there really does not seem to be consensus on
this at the moment I propose we table the idea till the next meeting.

Right now there are other more pressing uses of our time and energies,

it requires a few hours of time for me, but that wouldn't be the problem. I am just curious to hear the reasons. We discussed rather lenghty on why to have "us". I see you feel a need, but how do we organize things? How can we avoid having splitted mailing lists? I don't want to end up with, based on the German example, having "de", "bavaria", "allgaeu" and "schwaben", where two of these will vanish some day, and all is just cluttered.

If there is a compelling reason, I am happy to do the change, but still I do not understand why "northamerican" is so much better than "us". Or, why did you then want to have a specific "us" list in the beginning?


In the beginning, we thought that we would be able to organize as just one US team and I think we have just found that it is easier for us to think more as a North American team and including the Mexican and Canadian market into our talks. The US touches both of these countries in a very BIG way. Having the US mailing list only, labels our mailing list as being only US-related and sends the wrong message to the other two groups when we try to include them in our planning -- the DVD is a good example of this, although there is quite a large ES population in the US, the ES version is could easily be attributable to the Mexican group and the FR easily attributable to the Canadian group. The "US mailing list label" is perhaps too limiting for what we could accomplish for the marketing and project development of LibreOffice and some of us find it limiting.

IMO, to keep things simple, we could open a new NorthAmerican mailing list and see how useful it will get, and, if later down the road, we decide that it is more useful, we could merge the past US mailing list messages into the NorthAmerican mailing list. This will then lessen the work to be done, by having you (Florian) only creating the NorthAmerican mailing list and leaving the US mailing list as is.

The NA mailing list will allow us to accomplish more for a market of almost 500 million people as more of our project intersect with all 3 countries.



Marc Paré

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