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On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Florian Effenberger
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Marc Paré wrote on 2011-06-19 07.20:

I would tend to favour an acronym that will leave no guessing as to
which group one is emailing to. However, in this case I would favour
Carl's suggestion of "" (yes, I know that
uppercase and lowercase do not matter ... I just did it for an effect).
This will make it completely obvious that we are talking of this region
of the globe to anyone who is not proficient in EN. It beats any acronym
that we could come up with. To be perfectly honest, whenever people
speak of "North America", they normally imagine the US market first and
foremost. So, in some regards, the change in name will still fill in the
mandate from the TDF/SC of concentrating on the US market.

may I ask why you plan a name change at all? I still would object to it - it
means a lot of work to rename the lists and the like, just for "optical"
reasons, and we already had a lenghty discussion on the name before we came
up with "us"...


I had this thought too when the idea first arose to change email addresses.

Being from the U.S., it's difficult for me to step into the reality of
people from other countries in North America. So please forgive any
slights, they are not intentional.

From the perspective of "Marketing LibreOffice", the U.S. is prime
territory. Successful marketing programs in the U.S. will naturally
benefit the other North American countries as well. In addition, the
market (the people, companies, organizations, governments, etc.) who
we are trying to reach will have almost exposure to nor impact from
internal LibreOffice email addresses.

So what we are really talking about is how this affects people working
on North American LibreOffice Marketing who do not live in the U.S.,
as well as those of us who see what we are doing as inclusive. I do
not personally get a thrill out of the "US" label on LibreOffice
efforts. It makes more sense to me to focus on having LibreOffice be
successful regardless of country than to worry over hurting anyone's
nationalistic feelings.

I'm more concerned with the lack of response to the OHLF Hackfest,
OSCON and other marketing efforts than with possible hurt feelings.
When we have some significant successes to point to, there will be
opportunities to distinguish people and places.

We need to focus on marketing more than group maintenance. The people
who are actively engaged in LibreOffice marketing get along fine
(maillist, IRC, direct communications) and people have plenty of room
to be themselves. Seriously, I do not relate to Marc, Italo, Florian
and others as being from other countries. We're all in the project


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