Re: [us-marketing] Re: LibreOffice North American Community meeting - April 2011

On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 04:32 -0700, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
> On 4/28/2011 1:13 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> > On 04/28/2011 09:31 AM, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
> > > On 4/28/2011 4:37 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> > > > On 04/28/2011 01:39 AM, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Do you want me to start looking at the process?  I have not been
> > > > looking into that system since I was working on the NA DVD as my first
> > > > priority.
> > > I've already spent about 5 hrs. on it. How you budget your time is up to
> > > you.
> > >
> > > Drew:
> > >
> > > The boilerplate issue concerns the page header, the page footer, and the
> > > color scheme. This also includes logos.
> > >
> > > Also included is page layout control, in the sense that SS creates
> > > tables to control layout, where those tables were not in the
> > > user-created content.
> > >
> > > So, when I talk about extraneous content, it's the above I'm
> > > referring to.
> > >
> > > I can pretty much guarantee I won't be able to participate in the IRC
> > > chat today @16:00 PST.
> > >
> > > Also, I'll be out of email range after this post.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > jec
> > Well I used the ones that the .de "box" project used.  If the
> > SilverStripe system uses a different format, then there will be some
> > changes.  If they use the same CSS files, the pages will just need to
> > have their relative URL in the headers instead of the one that are
> > being used now.  By making that change, the formating of the pages
> > should be mostly automatic and may need little editing on our part
> > [hopefully], except some content style issues.
>
> It's more complicated than that.
>
> When the pages were copied, the copied material included a header,
> footer, logos (aka "matter"). 

Yes and it

> Let's deal with that first. The purpose of
> SilverStripe (SS) is to provide that matter for every page it formats.
> When the pages were copied for the purpose of inclusion on the NADVD,
> the copy included that matter. We removed the logo references and
> replaced them with our own.  

No we cloned the CSS based theme and actually updated the binary file
used for the logo - the file name even is the same (I think). The CSS
theme name changed - so hen it goes back to the SS server that has to be
reconciled.

> When we go to put the pages back into SS,
> we'll have to strip out the matter.
>
> For every page generated by SS, we will also get a TDF logo in the
> header in place of the NADVD logo (don't quote me on this, I'm sure it's
> possible to override. I think Friedrich was setting up alternate themes,
> but I haven't checked since that conversation).



> That leaves the page body.
>
> SS formatted the content of each page body (that's one reason for using
> SS) on the day that page was copied for the NADVD. 


> That formatting
> process put the content into one or more HTML tables. 

The tables came from the origianl code, it was not added by us.

> That HTML will
> have to be stripped out, since SS will provide it again to generate the
> formatted page. 

Well I opened the SS editor in HTML mode, copy/paste html with tables
and it works, SilverStripes RT editor lets me alter the table.

If I create the table from scratch in SS I get the same HTML table
code...

> If we didn't strip out the HTML table code, then we
> would see layout issues.

...I'm confused then - do you mean we should loose tables for CSS divs -
Yes I AGREE. 

(Caveat) using the SS setup last night it seems like the big issue is
the CSS heme, fix (understand) that and we are in smooth waters.


Then again I could be full of crap on that also - but it seems this way.

email for the change on the access rigts on the SS instance at TDF is
gone, so hopefully I can join you there today

Thanks Jeff for all your doing on this -

//drew


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