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On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 04:32 -0700, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
On 4/28/2011 1:13 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
On 04/28/2011 09:31 AM, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
On 4/28/2011 4:37 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
On 04/28/2011 01:39 AM, Jeffrey Chimene wrote:
Do you want me to start looking at the process?  I have not been
looking into that system since I was working on the NA DVD as my first

I've already spent about 5 hrs. on it. How you budget your time is up to


The boilerplate issue concerns the page header, the page footer, and the
color scheme. This also includes logos.

Also included is page layout control, in the sense that SS creates
tables to control layout, where those tables were not in the
user-created content.

So, when I talk about extraneous content, it's the above I'm
referring to.

I can pretty much guarantee I won't be able to participate in the IRC
chat today @16:00 PST.

Also, I'll be out of email range after this post.


Well I used the ones that the .de "box" project used.  If the
SilverStripe system uses a different format, then there will be some
changes.  If they use the same CSS files, the pages will just need to
have their relative URL in the headers instead of the one that are
being used now.  By making that change, the formating of the pages
should be mostly automatic and may need little editing on our part
[hopefully], except some content style issues.

It's more complicated than that.

When the pages were copied, the copied material included a header,
footer, logos (aka "matter"). 

Yes and it

Let's deal with that first. The purpose of
SilverStripe (SS) is to provide that matter for every page it formats.
When the pages were copied for the purpose of inclusion on the NADVD,
the copy included that matter. We removed the logo references and
replaced them with our own.  

No we cloned the CSS based theme and actually updated the binary file
used for the logo - the file name even is the same (I think). The CSS
theme name changed - so hen it goes back to the SS server that has to be

When we go to put the pages back into SS,
we'll have to strip out the matter.

For every page generated by SS, we will also get a TDF logo in the
header in place of the NADVD logo (don't quote me on this, I'm sure it's
possible to override. I think Friedrich was setting up alternate themes,
but I haven't checked since that conversation).

That leaves the page body.

SS formatted the content of each page body (that's one reason for using
SS) on the day that page was copied for the NADVD. 

That formatting
process put the content into one or more HTML tables. 

The tables came from the origianl code, it was not added by us.

That HTML will
have to be stripped out, since SS will provide it again to generate the
formatted page. 

Well I opened the SS editor in HTML mode, copy/paste html with tables
and it works, SilverStripes RT editor lets me alter the table.

If I create the table from scratch in SS I get the same HTML table

If we didn't strip out the HTML table code, then we
would see layout issues.

...I'm confused then - do you mean we should loose tables for CSS divs -

(Caveat) using the SS setup last night it seems like the big issue is
the CSS heme, fix (understand) that and we are in smooth waters.

Then again I could be full of crap on that also - but it seems this way.

email for the change on the access rigts on the SS instance at TDF is
gone, so hopefully I can join you there today

Thanks Jeff for all your doing on this -


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