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Ik heb ook nog even naar een paar vertaalde items gekeken en vind de
vertaling niet super sterk.
Niet beter dan bijvoorbeeld google vertaal.


Op vr 9 apr. 2021 om 09:41 schreef Kees Kriek <>:

Op vr 9 apr. 2021 om 08:27 schreef Rob Westein <>:


In de mail hieronder van Olivier Hallot, spreekt hij over
als vertalingstool ipv OmegaT.

Ik had nog nooit van gehoord, hebben jullie ervaringen met

Ik had ook nog nooit van matecat gehoord, dus ik ben eens gaan kijken.
Ik heb een account gemaakt en als voorbeeld een hoofdstuk van calc in de
vertaler gegooid. Volgens de omschrijving zou matecat gratis zijn, tot je
de vertaling wilt inzien, dan moet je het kopen. Dat hoofdstuk bleek 559
euro te kosten.

Anders moet je stuk voor stuk op de aparte zinnen klikken om de vertaling
over te nemen.

Dan doe ik het maar handmatig.

Groet, Kees


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Info request about your
translation process for "7.0 Getting Started Guide"
Date:   Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:27:35 -0300
From:   Olivier Hallot <>
Organization:   The Document Foundation

Hi Valter

Thanks for the kind words.

We found that machine translation has evolved to be considered for our
use, and a handy way to break the language barrier. Technical English
used in our guides is well rendered by the translation service we used.
It may be the case for Italian too, I hope so.

We think that sub-optimal Portuguese is better than no Portuguese at
all. But MT is not ready to unleash without a human review. By
eliminating the language barrier, it was easy for local doc team to jump
in and review the output of the MT service.

We estimate a translation hit up to 90-95% acceptable. Some mistakes
slips in, and is part of the fun to chase them.

Unlike OmegaT, which is an excellent tool for desktop, we used to upload a Guide chapter, translate "as-is" and download
for review. Translation of a chapter takes 10 seconds.

The service handles ODT files and formatting is fully preserved. The
service is free, you can also open an account and upload your
translation memory from OmegaT to improve results (not tested).

We also decided to do the translation only once and break the link to
the English guides. From now on, the Brazilian guides will just rewrite
the changes of the English guide directly in Portuguese, and we will not
run further machine translations of the same guide. We have also
rewritten parts of the guides that we will suggest for upstream, in a
2-way collaboration. is open source (github) and a service run by a startup with
sponsor of by 2 European universities and an Italian foundation.

Kind regards


Em 07/04/2021 15:51, Valter Mura escreveu:
Hi Brazilian LibreOffice Team!

My name is Valter Mura, one of the Italian localizzation team
and I recently read the good article about the launch of the 7.0 Getting
Started Guide in Brazilian Portuguese [1]

As we (as team) found your work great, we would like to know, if
which steps you've followed in order to achieve this important goal,
and the
tools used for it.

Presently our latest complete "publication" is for LibreOffice 3.5

As we read the article, a light of hope was lit on the horizon, the
hope of
bridging the gap between the work already done and that still to be

We use OmegaT to translate documentation strings, and reuse the TM we

I thank you in advance for any information you can provide, and I
you again for the excellent work you are doing.



Olivier Hallot
LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
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