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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libreoffice and Drupal Security
- Subject: Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libreoffice and Drupal Security
- From: Keith Williams <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:12:31 -0400
- To: email@example.com
One reason I really like Drupal is that with the fusion base theme, you
really don't need to know ANY PHP to get most layouts / designs. While
knowing PHP would let you do more. I design themes. You can just point
firebug at spots and change the theme. In the admin UI you can setup
fixed/float width and setup the column layout and size.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, James Benstead <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Forwarded at the request of Benjamin Horst:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Benstead <email@example.com>
> Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Libreoffice and Drupal Security
> To: David Nelson <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Cc: email@example.com, Benjamin Benjamin Horst <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Alex
> Giorgi-Coll <email@example.com>
> Hi David et al,
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:27 PM, David Nelson <firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Hi Greg, :-)
> > Thanks a lot for your answers. There, in fact you did indeed tell me
> > what I was curious to know. I read through your report, too. I've been
> > monitoring the discussions on the list... Keith Williams, notably, is
> > arguing hard for Drupal. Me, I'm simply an observer of this
> > discussion, so anything I say will be simply uninvited butting-in. I
> > could recommend you to jump into this thread:
> > http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/msg00300.html
> > There are SilverStripe proponents citing notably the admin interface
> > and the initial configuration of Drupal as cons for its adoption.
> > Security is not what's at issue for them. They seem to feel that
> > Drupal's admin interface is not easy to use, notably for admins with
> > no Drupal experience.
> While this is true of the default Drupal admin interface, it is possible to
> build any admin interface you like for Drupal. There are a number of "admin
> themes" that can be set to kick in when an administrator wants to make
> changes to their site: see
> http://mogdesign.eu/blog/10-drupal-administration-themes/ as an example.
> Secondly, a huge amount of UI/UX work has been put into D7 so that the
> interface is usable out of the box. This work was headed up by Mark Boulton
> (http://www.markboulton.co.uk/), largely in response to a 2008 University
> Baltimore study which examined the out-of-the-box usability of Drupal 6:
> Please let me know if you would like me to contact Mark Boulton - he is
> highly unlikely to want to join the discussion but I am happy to put
> questions to him directly.
> Thirdly, the usability of any specific D6 site is really down to the
> of the individual or team that builds that site. I would not claim to be a
> designer (our Creative Director, Alex Giorgi-Coll, is copied into this
> email) but I have a strong interest in UI/UX from my days teaching web
> skills to people with disabilities. codeloom prioritises the UI/UX of the
> sites we produce.
> > They haven't seen a convincing demo site with sufficient content on it
> > to properly showcase Drupal. Also, they are worried about their lack
> > of experience with it, and that if things go wrong they'll have no-one
> > to turn to. If they could get some ongoing and reliable support from
> > some Drupal people, and if they could get a look at the backend of a
> > live, operational site of some consequence, I'd say that could help
> > swing things.
> We're aiming to produce just such a site on http://codeloom.net - I'll let
> you know when this is live. In the meantime, have you seen Drupal Gardens
> at http://www.drupalgardens.com/? That may go some way to properly
> showcasing Drupal.
> As far as support goes, this will take time and therefore potentially
> One place to enquire is http://openflows.org/ - we're due to be working
> with them on an education project, so let me know if you'd like me to
> mention the potential LibreOffice Drupal site to them.
> > They need a wiki and forums, and there are voices that want those as
> > add-on modules integrated with Drupal. Some people seem to think that
> > it's better to have a dedicated product for each (CMS, forums and
> > Wiki). If you can convince them Drupal has an integrated answer that
> > is more advantageous than separate products, you can win the day.
> This is an interesting one - Drupal has wiki-like capabilities but my
> current position would be to use Mediawiki for a specific wiki. I'd be
> really interested to hear of any Drupal-specific solutions, though.
> > Some people also seem to have doubts about the ease of theming with
> > Drupal templates... Plus how to handle special data types...
> With regards to Drupal theming, it is a technical challenge, especially to
> graphic designers with little PHP/jQuery knowledge. The D6 theming system
> can be learnt and taught relatively easily though; there are great tutorial
> DVDs available from http://www.lullabot.com, for example.
> As for handling special data types, can you be a litte more specific? I'm
> relatively non-technical ;)
> > I hope this helps you plan your attack... You might care to liaise
> > with Keith Williams about this?
> > Of course, if I can be of any help, please do let me know. My own
> > experience has been with small, personal sites done with Zikula
> > (ex-PostNuke), which I can happily hack and theme. And, more recently
> > with WordPress. But I'm a complete outsider and recent observer of the
> > TDF/LibO project. However, I'm looking for an opportunity to get
> > involved.
> > Suggestion: Drupal people are the only CMS guys to have actively taken
> > an interest in the TDF sites project, but beware of discussion about
> > WorPress/Pods/BuddyPress gaining momentum...?
> > Hope this helps, and thanks for the info. Personally, I reckon Drupal
> > deserves to win the day...
> > Good luck, and all the best, :-)
> > David Nelson
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