Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki - to users moving pages to new positions

Il 07/02/2015 22:01, Robinson Tryon ha scritto:
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:12 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको <elcico2001@yahoo.it> wrote:
> > Am I wrong, or any page under /IT should be supposed to be part of the
> > documentation of the IT (italian) localization team?
> I know that pages exist on the wiki under IT/, FR/, etc.., but I can't
> remember if we ever documented how those language-specific subgroups
> are intended to be used (e.g. what's in-scope for those sections vs.
> what should go elsewhere). Take a look at this page, and perhaps you
> have some information/advice about what kind of local content would be
> in-scope?
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF_Wiki/Multilingual

Well... of course everybody is free to work on any part of the wiki, 
but, I would take for granted that pages under /IT or /FR or /ES, should 
be managed by corresponding local teams, as these pages are created by 
local teams (and they are not, usually, translated in other languages). 
That's why I keep on saying this kind of wiki is just a mess...

> > This is one of the pages that were moved:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/IT/Localizzazione/Processo
> >
> > It was moved to this other (wrong) location:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help:Editing/it
> >
> > The content of the first page had nothing to do with the second page.
> What's the purpose of IT/Localizzazione/Processo ? It looks like
> there's some content there relevant to translating wiki pages, but
> then that section references
> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/italiano, which is the domain
> used by the Documentation Team, and I get lost around there.

Yes, there are instructions for localization (general, not only wiki); 
we are not using odfauthors that much, we prefer to have all 
instructions on the wiki.

> Maybe someone was trying to streamline the process of editing the wiki
> and translating/localizing wiki pages, and got confused about how that
> content could best be organized. If you have the time, it would be
> great if you could stub-in some guidelines on the Multilingual page,
> or toss out some ideas here on the list? :-)

Sorry, I really don't have time; I'm already working on guides 
localization to italian; and trying to coordinate the work of other 
volunteers, also by writing procedures on the wiki.

Anyway...my idea is to get a real multilanguage wiki, with subdomains! :)

> > Now this page (/Help:Editing/it) is under translation, (with the content of
> > the corresponding english page); and I had to recreate the page
> > IT/Localizzazione/Processo.
> All of the translation and localization processes are quite cryptic to
> me. We have top-level pages like
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice that maybe
> could live under Translation/ or Language/ or something similar?

yes I do agree this page should go under localization; something like:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language/Translating_LibreOffice

as the UI translation is something contained in the more general work of 
localization.

For that page, I created the it correspondent, that still has to be 
translated:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice/it


Fact is, I should only manage the wiki, to know where things should be! :)


> > Hope it's clear now.
> Oh, it's still all a bit fuzzy, but thank you very much for trying to
> help clarify things :-)
>
> > Thank you for your interest! :)
> > Namastè :)
> Best,
> --R
I repeat... best thing is to have a wiki with language subdomains. I 
don't know if that's so difficult to set up and manage, if it's 
difficult to import data from the actual wiki, but, from the user/editor 
point of view, there's no comparison! :)
So ... admins... please! :)
Thanks! :)

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