Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice "Fresh" not explained and inconsistent

The new website design decided to change the things.  Wording included.

"Fresh" now refers to the version that is not as "stable" as the current 
line you are using and is currently for the more "adventurous" users.  
Right now your Mom is using the "current" 4.1.x line that is at 4.1.5.  
The "Fresh" version/line is at 4.2.1 and is meant for those more 
adventurous early adopters, and not people like your Mom [most likely].

Yes, you know this, but I think we really need to find a better words to 
replace "Fresh" and "Stable".  Others may not and need to be given a 
"warning" that the newest version of the 4.2.x line is not for those 
users that do not like to be an "early adopter" or something like that.  
Most "moms and dads" would not.  I know mine would not.  Most of the 
people who live in my apartment building would not either.

In April 4.1.6 will be out and that will be the end of the 4.1.x line.  
Then, when 4.2.x gets to 4.2.4, a lot of users switch over that that line.

Personally, I would let you Mom know that she should update to 4.1.5.  
That is what I am currently using, both on Windows and Linux.

As for the automatically forwarding to the "Fresh" page, other will need 
to look at that.  I am one of those people who think the download page 
system should not go to the "early adopter" version of LibreOffice.  It 
currently should go to 4.1.5 and inform you that 4.2.1 exists and that 
is it for those who are more adventurous users who would like to be an 
"early adopter" of the new line.  In a few months, the 4.3.x line will 
be started and then it will be for the early adopters, while the 4.2.x 
line will be at the "more stable" stage with versions 4.2.4 or 4.2.5 
available  for download.





On 03/11/2014 07:12 AM, Johannes Dewender wrote:
> Hello LibreOffice Website Guys,
>
>
> My mom got a notification in LibreOffice that an LibreOffice 4.1.5 is 
> available (she had 4.1.3 or similar). The only choice was a manual 
> update which opened the browser at
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
> which automatically forwarded to
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
> And there was a "LibreOffice Fresh" 4.2.1 available.
>
> So two confusions arose:
> 1. What the Heck is "LibreOffice Fresh"?
> 2. Why are (normal) users advised to go for 4.1.5, but the website 
> redirects to 4.2.1?
>
>
> To be precise on the Naming/Explaining inconsistency:
>
> I could not find "LibreOffice Fresh" explained anywhere. The string 
> just appears. Not even one sentence what this is about.
> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/ introduces 4.2.* 
> but also no mentioning of "Fresh".
>
> Additionally the usage of that "string" isn't even at all consistent:
>
> At
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
> on the bottom I see 4.1.5 *and* 4.2.1 listed as "stable".
>
> Under
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=rpm-x86_64&version=4.1.5&lang=en-US 
>
> you do get 4.1.5 under the "LibreOffice Fresh" label.
>
>
> Anyways, the idea to have an early adopters version labeled 
> "LibreOffice Fresh" is fine, but that needs to be communicated!
> Yes, some users wouldn't care if it says "LibreOffice Trojan Edition" 
> and install it anyways, but others actually do read what it says and 
> get more and more confused the more they try to find out what this means.
>
>
> Greetings
> JonnyJD


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