and let me add one word of general note here with regards to tools and
Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-11-25 22:00:
1. Please tell me when and who said "ownCloud would be perfect".
It is almost impossible to come up with a tool that fits and fulfills
all needs for everyone who may ever use it.
Infra can pre-test the tools and then deploy them, which is what we do,
but we heavily rely on feedback from our users which tools do fit our
needs and which don't. That feedback, however, has to be in an
appropriate form - claiming the tools we have been investing time to set
up are "near useless" are, to be straight, not an appropriate form.
Infra is continuously working on improving existing tools, reviewing
them, fixing bugs and issues reported by the users, and switching tools
when something better suited comes up. However, we cannot do miracles.
We are one of the largest free software projects worldwide, with over
thousand contributors out of several dozen of countries, and quite a
bunch of sub-projects. It is impossible to come up with something that
fits all needs at the same time, serving users with different needs,
working environments and skillsets.
This is also the reason why we sometimes have several tools running,
yielding to people complaining about the huge variety. There is sadly
not a "one thing fits it all" solution, at least none that I'm aware of.
We are there to hear, we listen, we try to fix things where we can. But
first of all, people need to talk to us and work _constructively_ with us.
If anyone here as a recommendation of a free tool and promises it serves
all users needs, and nobody will ever complain, I will install it
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