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Obviously I've unnecessarily and unintentionally stirred up a shitstorm for
which I apologize.

It's not specifically Debian, some Debian-based distributions can also take
their time filtering packages through from debian. For example, LMDE hasn't
released a new update pack since March and is starting to fall behind. In
that case, simply adding the repo to sources would be preferable to waiting
for LMDE to catch up or manually uninstalling and installing debs on 50+
machines (or setting LMDE to track debian testing which has only ever
broken the system in my tests).

It was also my understanding that official TDF .debs were compatible with
Debian, Ubuntu and derivative distributions. Again, feel free to correct me
if I'm wrong.

On 29 July 2013 12:17, Rene Engelhard <> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 01:08:28PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Backports has 4.0.3 because there's no sense to jump on every version
still needs to be tested to be exposed to stable users. And 3.5, yeah,
it sucks
but 3.6 was't ready by the time wheezy was frozen...

Besides that, I uploaded dthe 4.0.x backport quickly after 4.0.x was in
unstable. (factually breaking the rules, but LO has a exception for
updates. 3.5-Y>4.0 is so). Otherwise the policy is "take from testing".
4.1 will follow when it's tested in unstable...

Should I tell you what hinders in from entering testing now?

$ grep-excuses libreoffice
libreoffice (1:4.0.3-3 to 1:4.1.0-2)
    Maintainer: Debian LibreOffice Maintainers
    Too young, only 1 of 10 days old
[ missing builds on armel, armhd, kfreebsd-i386, kfreebsd-amd64 ]
[ RC bug which is fixed ]
    Not considered
    Depends: libreoffice kde-runtime (not considered)
    Depends: libreoffice liborcus (not considered)
    Depends: libreoffice mdds (not considered)
    Depends: libreoffice python3-defaults (not considered)

Thus it's blocked by
 a) being too young
 b) by the KDE people adding a stricter depends and that one's blocked due
    a bug
 c) new dependencies LO 4.1 has.
 d) python3-defaults because python3.3-uno was just a workaround and now
    it's back to sane packaging, but with the caveat that it needs the
    new default pyton (python 3.3 IS needed, even upstream)

Please tell me how I should have speeded this up? There's no way out of the
waiting time and no, I am not going to use internal libraries.



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