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Hello Christian,

Le mercredi 06 février 2013 à 17:14 +0100, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
Hi Charles, *,

So what is the status/where ist the stuff that need to be put online?

I might have missed some stuff because I've been offline for quite a
while. I've seen drafts/proposals, but I missed the actual stuff it

Instead of quoting and replying to each comment individually:

*) silverstripe is very flexible, and putting a page online in
whatever design is easy, especially if it is only a landing page that
doesn't need to include dynamic (i.e. depending on what other pages
were created) navigation.
You can just simply put the HTML you create locally in the template
and thats it, no need for "integration" work or similar.

So when you have the finished proposal, please point me to it.

Similarily, setting a redirection or similar up is possible as well,
but same problem: Need to have the proposal...

Olav also criticized the download page - fine, but he makes the
mistakes of linking the design to the apparent lack of capabilities of
silverstripe - but those have nothing to do with each other. Another
CMS wouldn't give you a nice download page magically. And neither is
the look of the site linked to the CMS - you will have to create nice
CSS and define how navigation should look/work with other CMS as well,
so switching CMS wouldn't solve this. What /does/ solve this is
actually providing mockups/designs on how it *should* look instead.
Just stating "it sucks" won't help.

But we had that discussion so many times, with only complaints and no
concrete proposals on how it actually should work (hopefully that will
now change with Camille, Jonathan, and  offering their
not-only-voice-based help :-)

Olav wants a "modern website to showcase" - then please design it and
it can be put on the site. I wrote so many times that I can help with
the technical part of it (i.e. putting it into silverstripe, doing the
html-assembly), but that I'm no webdesigner, so if you want cool
looks/graphics, those have to be supplied by someone else.
I wrote so many times already that you can even have your customized
theme for your language, and that the css is on github, but that
didn't change anything..

Erich has mentioned another important point, that I think got lost:
How are NL-Projects supposed to deal with it? Will there only be one
single English frontpage and NL-Teams will have the current one?

So again one more time:
Don't confuse the current design with a limitation of silverstripe.
Silverstripe only does what the template tells it to do. And the
template and php code can be adjusted freely.

I'll let Camille answer...


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