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Le 2012-12-28 07:45, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
Hello,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-12-05 17:24:

My suggestions is that http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ would now
be the official planet with the nl planets showing in the right margin.
Or as Cedric suggested on the FR list, a setup such as the Opensouse
site would also work[1], The links at the top would show the different
nl planets and NOT the blogs.

I like the general approach, definitely. Setting up various Planets is
not a big problem. We can re-use the template if needed, and just adjust
the Planet's configuration file, to reflect the localized content. It is
even possible, with some work from the infra team, that the local teams
can adjust their content themselves, i.e. edit the configuration file
Planet uses. For the beginning, it's probably best if I manage the
configuration files, until we have some decent web interface. The
current setup requires editing of the configuration via SSH.

However, I do have some comments about the effectiveness of that site
which I explained on the FR discuss list. In particular, if we were to
follow such a model, I would suggest:

* links at the top would be nl planets
* link names would all be localised
* there would be a link to the EN planet

This sounds sensible to me.

* all articles showing on the landing page would be those of official
TDF/LibreOffice news (no EN blogs other than an Official TDF blog would
show on this landing page)

Does this mean you want to have two English blog pages, like one
official, and one nonofficial? I am not sure if this makes sense. The
official English feed is the TDF blog, and so I think the landing page
should contain all English blogs, including the TDF one, but not
exclusively the TDF one.


I was hoping that we could manage an EN blog to allow the EN community to grow. At this point, there is simply no growth in the EN community. The outcome would still be the same if we did this, there would be the official TDF blog and then the EN community blog. This would put the EN community at the same level playing field as all other communities and put into the EN community's hands the management of their own blog. We need to give the EN community a chance to work on an identity and to accept more responsibility for blog contributions.

It may take a while to organize the EN community as, at the moment, there is no set structure to it. This will help it organize and group the many countries that fit into this group[1]. There are quite a few and this may be just the right opportunity for them to organize themselves.

* offer registrations offering members the option of picking favourites
(nl planets), permitting them to see only the planets of their choice
once logged in (allow members to be logged in over an extended 7 days to
promote regular visits to the site)

The current software we use, Planet, does not allow for that. I am not
sure if there is a software offering that, and I am not sure if that
makes sense. Anyone who'd like to have their own compilation of blogs
can use a feed reader of Google reader anyways. Maybe we can hint at
such a solution, instead of investing time in reinventing the wheel?


Sure, no problem with this. This was more of a wish to see blog readers to re-visit the site(s). The feeds are good, but does not get readers back to our pages.

* IMO, we should eventually work towards a "one TDF login does all" for
all of our sites. This will allow us another metric for marketing
purposes -- even better as these members would be more engaged members.

This is one of the long-term goals the infra team has. Unfortunately, it
is not quite easy to achieve, we have been discussing and researching on
this for quite some months now. It is on the todo, but I don't expect it
to happen short-term, it requires lots of development on our own, and
makes installing new tools more complicated, since the approaches in
single sign-on (OpenID, LDAP, whatever) is different or even totally
lacking.


Sure, I know that this is a wishlist on many lists. It does seem to be complicated to put into place. Will the new infrastructure move help with this?

Florian


Marc

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language

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