Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki editor breaks EasyHacks horribly

Hi Florian, Olivier, *,

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Florian Effenberger
<floeff@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Marc Paré wrote on 2011-12-22 16:00:
>
> > It's a shame that it has been disabled without further investigating the
> > problem with it.
> > [...]
>
> sorry for the inconveniences - I saw the "alert", and then wanted to react
> quickly, since it's better to have temporarily less comfort when editing
> pages, rather than getting important pages always destroyed.

And it was the correct decision (Björns mail was stuck in cyberspace
for quite a while btw).
The problem is that even when you disable the WYSIWYG editor, it still
destroys what you write, thus making it completely unusable.
While there is a magic string you can put into a wiki page to prevent
the editor from loading, this won't help the cases where people are
just doing a minor edit like fixing a typo and don't pay attention to
the rest, thus they don't even notice that their edit breaks the whole
page because the editor is "too smart".

> Maybe Manuel or Christian can investigate.

I had a quick look, and I don't really like the design - compared to
tinyMCE it is much more confusing...
Given that christmas is coming, then the bug hunting session, then new
years celebrations....  I don't really see a chance before January.

> I recall there was a setting to
> disable the editor for everyone, unless they explictly activate it in the
> preferences.

It is not about a personal preference whether the editor suits one's
likings or not. So this is not a solution.

If it would let the stuff it doesn't understand alone, then it would
work. but just loading it messes it up completely. So "typo
fixes"/minor edits by people with the editor enabled can mess up the
whole page. - That's a nogo.

And while I know what Björn's problem/concern was that made him write
the mail (the <feed> URLs from the EasyHacks extension) - I don't know
what problem there was that broke the Brazilian page. Could be that
breaking the site was also due to the editor, could be that it was
just coincidence.
Before it is not understood what stuff it breaks, I won't reenable the editor.

So @Olivier - what tags/constructs did the editor destroy/what stuff
did you have to recover in your pages?

ciao
Christian

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