Re: [libreoffice-website] QA and TCM

Hi Rimas,
On 17/02/2011 16:17, Rimas Kudelis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2011.02.17 14:47, Sophie Gautier rašė:
> > So as indicated on the steering discuss list, we have settled a
> > staging Litmus site at tcm.documentfoundation.org. This site will
> > handle all our QA tests and may be even VCLTesttool results in the
> > future. We should be able to use it to handle beta, RC, l10nQA and
> > nightly builds testing.
>
> That would be nice. One thing to note though: Mozilla's guys told me
> Litmus is no longer being developed (except bugfixes). They're
> developing a replacement for it at the moment, so Litmus is apparently
> pretty much in a dead-end. We'd have to maintain it ourselves.

Ok, so may be it would be good to follow what they are doing. Are you in 
contact with them? I can also follow up if you prefer.
> > We need to adapt the tool to our needs, even if I see that some work
> > has already been done (Rimas, is it you? :-) and define together what
> > still needs to be done and if it's possible (like opening the creation
> > of TCS to more members for example). We need also to document the tool
> > ant the process on the wiki, add the native-language QA members in the
> > loop, etc...
>
> Well, if you mean the minimalistic style adaptation (s/mozilla/libo/g
> :)), then yes, that's me. ;)

thanks :)

The test cases aren't mine.
> First of all, what still needs to be done is undef errors fixed. :) I
> have a few more ideas for afterwards though:
> 1) the build id field and checks should be adapted for our use. It looks
> like Jean-Baptiste has already come up with a workaround for this, but
> it should be fixed instead of worked around.
> 2) testcase localization implemented correctly. I absolutely dislike the
> way it's done now. To the extent that I want to revoke admin rights from
> everyone but me. :)
> 3) platform/language autodetection (it looks like the criteria fields
> are there, but they aren't being used)
> ...
>
> However, I'm a total newbie in Perl programming, and I'm not very good
> with my schedule, so any help is more than appreciated. :)

yes, this is why I posted here, to get more people working on 
adaptation. And Nino in CC proposed himself also.
> > Who would like to work on this? May be this should be also the good
> > moment to open the native-language mailing list and move on it with
> > the QA teams of the native-lang communities?
>
> I think what we're discussing here is an infrastructure thing first of
> all. Yes, the NL teams will be the primary users of this particular
> tool, but I tend to think that its *usage* can be discussed on the L10n
> list, while the process of setting it up and implementing features that
> we need is only relevant to the NL as much as to any other team.
>
> I don't know if LibO has a services/infrastructure team, but I think
> that its list would be the correct place to discuss this (or just a
> bunch of CC'ed people). Meanwhile, all that we probably need from the
> website team for this particular project is to create templates/css
> styles. Or am I wrong?

No, but more people from the NL teams should be able and wanting to help 
here, my issue is that currently, apart from mailing their 
representatives directly and keep the discussion off list, it's not 
really easy. I face the same issue with the PR distribution, I can mail 
people directly, but I would really prefer to do it on a list.
Kind regards
Sophie
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