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On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 15:19 +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
Hi Italo, *,

Italo Vignoli schrieb:

The US marketing team is a top priority for North America, which is a
key market. There is a reason behind this priority: getting visibility
in the US brings a better visibility in other geographies, as many US
articles are translated into local languages (the single eWeek article
after the launch has been published in several European countries in
the local language, without any additional effort on our side).

I'm with You beeing glad to see US-American activities in this project,
and - no question - we should breed that little plant carefully.

Concerns are about the way the website change *again* happened here.
I remember an early discussion in which it was pointed out, that
marketing is a matter not only of the language but rather strongly of
the target *region*.

If the US are a leading market affecting other markets I'd assume the
Change in question is not a very effective means to take account of that

I wonder whether this is the final result of a genuine discussion.
Can You point me where it took place?
I'd expect a more refined result from our (global) marketing team. ;o))

On this one very specific issue - no, I't could not be construed that
way - although it was a quick discussion.

One person had some difficulty connecting the ML - now mind you many
others have found it just fine. The idea that this one situation points
to people knowing what a wiki is and what it is not is silly.

Another person asked on the US list, how does someone even know there is
a US Marketing list? Good question actually.

Well - I pointed out it was listed on the Wiki.

Now we could have a discussion about how it is listed and why it is easy
to see that many people would not find it with a search or browsing. But
that is not really the point of this email.

Fine - so this person suggested it should go on the website, somewhere.

David got that request - and not realizing that he was doing something
so egregiousness as to warrant an other community member to run to their
NL list and issue a call for action, actually handled it in a way that
made sense to him. Drat - the idea of individual action being such a bad
thing, is a concept that must be learned by most English speakers it
seems, so there you go I give one point. 

Of course if the idea had instead been posted to the ML it would of
played out differently - first it would of been ignored, failing that
then we would of have pretty much the same conversation.

So there you go - does this 'mistake' on David's part warrant much ado,
in and of itself - nah, I don't see how.



[.. more good reasons for estimating the US as leading market for
LibreOffice ..]

Marketing in the US brings in visibility in other markets, but not
vice versa, and therefore is a priority. Marketing in other
geographies is easier, also because the US are the home market for

I hope this explains the issue.

It explains why You propose to estimate the US market playing a special
role, but it doesn't explain, why *that* action was choosen! :o))

In any case, I think that for the first few months we should have as
many informations as these ones - helping newcomers to understand
where they should go - on the web site.

agreed exccluding "as these ones" and "the first few months". 

If Your above sentence was:
In any case, I think that we should have as many informations helping
newcomers to understand where they should go - on the web site.
I'm very shure no objections came up ;o))).

Many users have never heard about wikis, and will never look for infos
inside a wiki.

That sounds funny and I think this is a very particular issue of the US
market and should be handled on the US only marketing site ;o)).

Again: I agree with You, that we should take care for that plantlet. 
But I expect better results doing so in a common effort.

LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images
(german version already started)

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