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I am using a smartphone, so replying in the proper way is not easy, but I'll try.

On 14/feb/2011, at 13:30, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol <> wrote:

Many users have never heard about wikis, and will never look for infos
inside a wiki.

This isn't an argument (except the us-marketer are quite more stupid than all the other people 
around the world).
The same with QA, testing, design etc and our daily LibreOffice-work.
It is only an argument for changing our whole work from wiki and mailing lists to something else. 
And that isn't my purpose.

I have talked about users, and not about the way we - as project members - work.

Users will not look for informations inside a wiki, and any volunteer starts from the user POV 
(maybe developers are different).

Let's also add that a website in English does not serve at all - for instance - most Italian native 
speakers, who will close the page before even trying to search for IT. The same applies to many 
other geographies.

So, in a sense, the website is already serving better English native speakers than native speakers 
of any other language (maybe, Dutch and Nordic are exceptions, as they are usually fluent in 

Anyway, a transparent discussion about the US marketing list has already happened, when I have 
asked for it (please note that I'm Italian - as my first name says - and I live and work in Italy).

I would support any other request for an English or Spanish local marketing list, because it just 
makes sense (and I would read the list to help: I can read also French and Portuguese).

I hope this explains better.
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