Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-design] Extensions List suggestion

Hello Michael,

Le Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:10:35 +0930,
Michael Wheatland <michael@wheatland.com.au> a écrit :

> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello there,
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you tell me where does this come from? Where this decision
> > > > > has been discussed and taken and by whom? The fact that we
> > > > > don't use the OOo site is to satisfy a request that has
> > > > > nothing to do with quality.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are an open source project, why should we prevent somebody
> > > > > to contribute for whatever reason? what are the criteria for
> > > > > the quality you're talking about, where are they written, who
> > > > > is the person giving the approval? That would be funny that
> > > > > people could contribute to OOo but not to LibO...
> > > >
> > > > It is a work in progress. We will be consulting with all of the
> > > > stakeholders once things settle down and LibO3.3 has been
> > > > released. Rest assured we will be able to change things once a
> > > > community consensus has been reached.
> > > >
> > > > We did not want to move focus away from the important areas of
> > > > community development at the moment. Hence the comment
> > > > previously.
> > > >
> > > > Stay tuned
> >
> >
> > I must say that I'm left perplexed by all this. Michael, would you
> > mind telling us:
> > - who is "We" as "we did not want to move focus away"
> > - why this secrecy? Do you remember it's an open source project?
> > - "we will be consulting with all of the stakeholders... " so let me
> >  rephrase: you're doing something apparently in secret then will
> >  battle hard to defend it in front of the community? That's about
> > the most unproductive thing I can think of here, and it reminds me
> > of the Drupal misunderstanding. Nobody has ever talked about an
> > extension store/website, although it's definitely something we need
> > to address. But working this way around just does not help.
> I don't want to seem rude, but there seems to be a disproportionate
> amount of 'push back' within the website mailing list, while groups
> and individuals are working hard to build a better future for our
> community. Regardless of the development style, or whether it is
> received well from the community during consultation and even if
> ideas are not implemented, could I suggest everybody attempts to take
> an encouraging attitude towards new ideas and people willing to put
> hard work in to any idea or project. It is the responsibility of the
> people doing the work to consult and present their idea and
> development to the community at which point feedback and (hopefully)
> constructive criticism will always occur. (This is not a direct
> reference to Charles, but a feeling that I have from participating in
> and watching the mailing lists).


Certainly so Michael, what is wanted is a contributions-based culture. 
> There is no secrecy involved with this or any other
> ideas/developments I am involved in. It was an idea floated inside
> the website mailing list, wiki pages and instant chat discussions
> between the website team (Not IRC unfortunately).
> The idea was roughed out and as we have made clear through the website
> mailing list a number of times it is very easy to create a rapid
> prototype to 'show' the idea rather than tell it.


Okay, so indeed it's not exactly secrecy :-) Would you mind pointing
out some of the wiki pages ?

Best,
Charles.

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