Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Wiki]Two new pages

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Bernhard Dippold
<bernhard@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
> > > Might I suggest that these articles are 'end user support' and not
> > > community or development pages.
>
> Sorry, Michael, but I think they are very good examples of documentation.

I think they are very good examples of wiki tutorials also. The
content is high quality, but I am not sure which documentation
book/chapter this would be incorporated into.
The point I was making was this type of content is best suited for the
wiki.libreoffice.org when it is setup.

> About URL you already got the right reply on the TDF-discuss list:
> Categories are the way to go:
> <http://go.mail-archive.com/be8yWZzj8mKj7HRrcxx30XzgBOs=>
>
> So your pages have the right names :-)

I missed this conversation on the discuss list. If this is the case
then a fair amount of work must go into flattening the structure of
the existing content.
Could we have clarification/discussion regarding this on the website
mailing list to ensure everyone is on the same page and the decision
is made by the team responsible for the infrastructure.

> Some more comments to Michael:
> > > I would suggest we unpublish these pages from the TDF wiki. They are
> > > useful pages, but IMHO the TDF wiki should not be confused with the
> > > end user support.
>
> As stated above, my personal impression of the discussions here and in the
> SC is different. While the websites aim at different goals, the wiki will
> stay a common tool for all the LibO teams.
>
> So please leave these pages where they are.

Will do, but the discussion regarding the TDF wiki url structure needs
to be had here to clarify.

> > > This also clearly demonstrates the need for a LibreOffice wiki sooner
> > > rather than later. The development page for the LibreOffice wiki is
> > > here.
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki
>
> Please modify the page you just created yesterday at the same time you wrote
> your reply to Ricardo in a way that
> - either shows that this is your personal opinion about a possible structure
> - or links to the existing documentation area in the wiki
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation

The page I created does not have any statements regarding structure or
content, I simply created a place for the information to be placed
when the decisions are made.
If we decide to use categories only after the discussion then this
page will reflect that decision and the 'proposed pages' heading is
moot.

> > > Could I suggest that we create a place on the TDF wiki for these pages
> > > to reside until the LibO wiki has been created. I was thinking:
> > > Website/LibreOfficeWiki/Proposed/*
>
> As the proper place for such work is the documentation category, such a new
> place is not necessary.

I was simply trying to ensure we maintain the 'sub-page' structure we
currently have on the TDF Wiki.
I will create a new thread on the mailing list to discuss the way
forward with this as clearly both the current approach and the flat
approach are not compatible.

Thanks for the feedback,
Michael Wheatland

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