Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing

Thanks for the reply,

> > Or do you mean caching?
>
> I mean pregenerated html that could be served by apache or whatever
> other webserver alone.
> The website will not be the only purpose of thesite, so it should play
> nice with ressources.

Yes, drupal does this. It also natively includes caching (which I
think you need to consider further, regardless of chosen CMS).

> > I'm not sure why you want to see a demo installation of any one CMS,
>
> SInce that is the best method to actually try it out/prove all who say
> "CMS X fullfills all your requirements and your grandmother could use
> it".
I honestly feel this does *not* prove anything. A CMS like Drupal is a
very large platform capable of a lot. Out-of-the-box is really just
short-view of any platform. Again, I'll try to get

> No, the contrary is the case. I want the demo to get away from the
> themes, nice looking pages site. See the zikula example - having a
> look in the actual CMS /very/ quickly showed that it is not suitable
> for the intended use.
This is my point, I'm sure zikula (though I haven't seen it) is
capable of much more than you're seeing.

> So the other way is true: You need to have some knowledge of the CMS
> to setup a site that meets the requirements.
This seems to just clarify my point. You (possibly) haven't any
knowledge of zikula or drupal: in the same way that you haven't enough
knowledge to set it up, how can you predict what its _capable_ of
being setup for??

> Drupals demo at http://php.opensourcecms.com is not helpful in
> presenting drupal as a system that fulfills all the requirements.
Really, just proves the above statement.

> * I can see no way to add translations for a page
> * The editor is just a text-entry box
> * there seems no way to get an overview of created pages - you create
> pages just to never find them again - all you have is a simple list
> * I cannot see a way to have a hierarchy (only very, very limited),
> and the URLs while plain, are not human-readable (the nodes/<number>
> style)
Yes, these are purposely not out of the box settings - such these need
to be simply enabled and turned on. Drupal is made to be _very_
_heavily_ customized, so as little is turned off from the get go, so
that a real developer doesn't have to go running through the system
disabling bells and whistles just for the sake of getting started on
his own work. However, this doesn't mean its a paltform _only_ for
heavy-custimization.

> If that all that was to drupal, I'd never consider it.
If I judged any open source software in such a way, I'd still be using
Windows XP and Microsoft Office.


I'll try to get someone on this list soon to answer in depth questions
of "how" quick is it to do x-y-z.

Thanks,
Jonathan Zacsh
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