Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Fwd: [PATCH] Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look]

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com>wrote:

> Personally I would rather use the menu than these small buttons.
>
> But if that's the preferred way for you, I can try and do it. Doesn't
> sound too complicated, also there are already buttons below the vertical
> scrollbar. Can you give me Code Pointers to that?


Honestly, I would encourage not to have a show/hide ruler button in the
scroll bar area, as:
1) There would be size problems, as there are with the navigation buttons
at the bottom of the scrollbar, which are barely usable since they're so
small.
2) There would be icon problems, as there are with the navigation buttons.
(On Linux, only a fourth of the circular "Navigation" icon is visible.)
3) It detracts from the general aesthetic.
4) It's not likely to be used often (a user who uses rulers often can keep
them on at all times, a user that doesn't will rarely need the button),
therefore it doesn't need up-front placement.

If you think we really need an up-front ruler toggle, how about putting it
in the Standard toolbar, next to the other "View" buttons ("Navigator",
"Gallery" "Data Sources", "Non-Printing Characters)? Or, if you think that
would stretch the Standard toolbar too much, you could put all of these
commands under a "View" drop-down.

> 2012/11/1 Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@suse.com>
>
> > On Thu, 2012-11-01 at 14:02 +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > > there is nothing in LO bugzilla but in AOO you will find
> > > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=99284 with a link to
> > > http://www.libre-software.net/plea-for-hidden-rulers-in-open-office.
> > >
> > > For me it would only mean to add one additional setting to all my
> > > settings, when starting with a new version. So I have no strong opinion
> > > on it.
> >
> >         Nice write-up. Samuel - just changing the setting by itself -
> > without
> > making it really easy to re-show the rulers - with a suitable button
> > around the scroll-bar there might be a bit much ? :-) Any chance of
> > implementing a "toggle hide/show rulers" button ?
> >
> >         ATB,
> >
> >                 Michael.
> >
> > --
> > michael.meeks@suse.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot