Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Fwd: [PATCH] Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look]

The patch sets just a different default value, they are still there.
Everyone who needs them can still show them via View->Ruler.
Just for clarification.

Samuel


2012/11/1 Jean-Francois Nifenecker <jean-francois.nifenecker@laposte.net>

> Le 01/11/2012 11:32, Michael Meeks a écrit :
>
>  Hi guys,
> >         Thoughts on this ? I guess there are issues around seeing /
> > creating
> > tabs etc.
> >
> >         ATB,
> >
> >                 Michael.
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: [PATCH] Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look
> > I have submitted a patch for review:
> >
> >      https://gerrit.libreoffice.**org/956<https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/956>
> > ...
> > Hide the rulers in Writer by default for a cleaner look
> >
> > This is consistent with Impress. Might need to be discussed with ux-advise
> Certainly *not*
>
> Rulers -- that I don't use to set tab stops or something -- help having a
> global view of the document.
>
> Hiding rulers, hiding the document margins, hiding the non-printable chars
> are all children of the same kind: hide "things" to user, things that *are*
> indeed useful for an intelligent use of the tools.
>
> Opposite to what software creators say to ignorants: computing is *not*
> easy. Computing is *not* intuitive at all. Computing has to be learnt and
> taught. In this regard, text automation *must* be learnt. I strongly beg
> the powers-that-be in LibO to understand that hiding things will *not* help
> users, it will make them more difficult to use the software.
>
> We, as a free-software, have a responsibility: make the people understand
> that, whatever tool they elect, they have to understand it then to learn
> its use.
>
> So I repeat my answer: the rulers must certainly *not* be hidden, neither
> in Writer nor in Impress.
> --
> Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux
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