Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fixing 5.0 appearance

On 12/23/2017 05:54 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 01:25 AM, Dave Barton wrote:
> > Even better if the day ever comes when we can have styles list undocked
> > from the sidebar, in the same way as Navigator.
> >
> > Dave
> Sort of like the way it was *before* the UI was improved.
>
> A suggestion to developers:
>
> I would be very slow to change a program's user interface. End users
> learn a given interface and, over time, become very proficient with it
> (I think back to my DOS days when I could make PC-Write sing and dance
> with those Wordstar Ctrl-Key combinations). Then, someone comes along
> and decides to improve the UI by moving everything around (including
> moving the "Ctrl" away from its original position next to the "A" key).
> Several years ago, MS did this when it introduced its Ribbon, which
> forced end users to relearn their UI, which also meant *unlearning* many
> of the methods by which they had previously grown very productive. I
> think this is one reason Emacs and Vim are so popular with their
> respective users; the interface remains consistent over the years.
>
> One reason I like LibreOffice is because its developers seem to have
> been very slow to make unnecessary changes to the UI. For that, I offer
> a hearty thank you.
>
> That said, I think the sidebar was at least incomplete in its
> implementation, with no ability for the user to select the particular
> sidebar he wanted as default (i.e., styles vs. properties.) I will
> welcome a fix when it comes.
>
> I seem to remember seeing the sidebar first on Apache OpenOffice and
> thinking, "This is one reason I prefer LO." Then, on my next LO upgrade,
> I saw the sidebar and was bummed. Did LO copy the sidebar from AOO, or
> was it the other way around.
>
> Virgil
Virgil,
Your posting brought back a faint memory of that sidebar. I squashed it 
long ago when it was first introduced and haven't seen it since. I had 
to bring up AOO and check for it. You can squash it with the little icon 
on the left margin of the sidebar. There are < and > icons that expand 
or squash the sidebar respectively. Yes, when squashed there is still a 
bit of wasted main window on the right side for these icons, but that is 
the sacrifice for options.
HTH.
Girvin Herr

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