Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names (Resolved)

Eureka!!  Many Thanks Robert, that is the clue. The Alternative names 
appeared
because a draft .odt file was created by a copy and paste from an html 
file which
itself was a conversion from Lyx.  The problem is hopefully a "once 
only" but for the
archives and benefit of anyone who may meet this in the future, here is 
a summary.

1. Any text appearing in Libre Office Image 
Properties>Options>Alternative Name does
    not appear on screen in a displayed .odt , but will be shown as a 
screen shot, and in a
    printed copy, as an image caption in an html export from that .odt 
file.

2. Images inserted into a Libre Office .odt file will not usually create 
an Alternative name,
    but if the .odt file has been created by copy and paste from an 
html source, the file
    reference for any images in the html (not sure about tables) may be 
saved as an
    Alternative name to then appear in an html export.

This situation is unlikely to occur in normal Libre Office usage.

Thanks again Robert,

Gordon.






On 25/07/17 13:11, Robert Funnell wrote:
> Gordon -
>
> Yes, I see that indeed my Alternative names are blank, which 
> apparently is the default when a new image is inserted. How did you 
> create your .odt files? Manually? Or by some sort of conversion from 
> another format that defined the Alternative names?
>
> - Robert
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:
>
> > On 25/07/17 12:29, Robert Funnell wrote:
> > >  Gordon -
> > >
> > >  I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
> > > File >  Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML
> > >  option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of 
> > > things
> > >  aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no 
> > > filenames.
> > >  Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?
> > >
> > >  - Robert
> >  Robert,
> >              You are correct with the XHTML selection - the smaller 
> > print on that line indicates
> >               the selection is correct for html and xhtml.  If you 
> > secondary click on the image
> >               and select Properties>Options,  the popup shows (in my 
> > case) the name of the image
> >               and immediately  below, a line for Alternative name 
> > which is displaying the file name
> >               of the image. it is this filename that appears in the 
> > html exports. The fix is to go
> >               to each image Properties and delete whatever is showing 
> > in the Alternative name
> >                line.
> >                 Gordon.
> >
> > >  On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Hi Steve,
> > > >                Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of 
> > > the >  image file names that is
> > > >  a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing 
> > > properties >  for each
> > > >  image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove 
> > > them for >  the
> > > >  whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure 
> > > that >  framing lines
> > > >  appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some 
> > > software >  language
> > > >  translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
> > > >  formatting, even
> > > >  if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.
> > > > >  Gordon.
> > > > > >  On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> > > > >   Hi.
> > > > >   Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your 
> > > needs.
> > > > >   I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am 
> > > now wary
> > > > >   about using it for HTML export.
> > > > >   steve
> > > > > > >   On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:
> > > > > > > >   On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:
> > > > > > >   Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> > > > > > >   /
> > > > > >   /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, 
> > > and > > using >   Lyx for//
> > > > > >   //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for 
> > > translations > > mainly >   because//
> > > > > >   //it was preferred by the translators. Decided recently to 
> > > use > >  LO for >  authoring//
> > > > > >   //and delivery so that users can make copies in their 
> > > preferred > >  format. >  For both//
> > > > > >   //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
> > > > > >   //File>Export as PDF
> > > > > >   or//
> > > > > >   //File>Export>All formats>html//
> > > > > >   //
> > > > > >   //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html 
> > > exports./
> > > > > > >   Gordon.
> > > > > > > > > > >   How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu 
> > > "Save > >  as"? or > >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .....?
> > > > > > > > >   Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :
> > > > > > > >           From my experience,
> > > > > > > >              I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since 
> > > the > >  name of > > > the image
> > > > > > > >   should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > > > > > > > > >           Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: gordon cooper > > 
> > > <gordon_cooper@kinect.co.nz>
> > > > > > > >   Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > > > > > > >   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image 
> > > Names
> > > > > > > >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   We are using Libre Office in the writing of 
> > > > >  technical manuals
> > > > > > > >   where some users make html copies.
> > > > > > > > > > >   Finding that the file names of images are being 
> > > displayed
> > > > > > > >   beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > > > > > > >   all images are given a caption, we do not want the file 
> > > names > >  too.
> > > > > > > > > > >     I can remove them by going to each image > > 
> > > Properties> Options
> > > > > > > >   and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming 
> > > when > >  there are
> > > > > > > >   many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a 
> > > setting > >  that can
> > > > > > > >   automatically prevent the file names being displayed?
> > > > > > > > > > >   Have looked through the Help but found nothing, 
> > > did I > >  overlook it?
> > > > > > > > > > >   Gordon
> > > > > > > >   Tauranga N.Z.
> > > > > > > >


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