Re: [libreoffice-users] m$ and munich

2017-02-17 18:17 GMT+01:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydmsma@gmail.com>:

> You guys are missing something here. I don't have the link, but I read a
> news report on this (in The Guardian perhaps) which said that what had
> happened was that has been a group of conservatives in city government who
> have been opposed to the switch to opensource from the start have assumed
> leadership in the government. This change appears to be happening because
> they are now calling the shots.
>
> Tom
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tom Cloyd, MS MA LMHC (WA)
>
> > If they pay more taxes to the city, then there might be a deal to not ask
> > for a "tax discount" if the city uses M$ products.
> >
> > In my city and county [in USA] a big reason we get business is due to the
> > governments involved will give then some reduced taxes, or tax free, for
> a
> > number of years.  They do this to help the area employ more people who
> need
> > the type of work offered.  Now we have an arena that needs a new owner or
> > we loose a lot of events along with our hockey teem.  The new buyer wants
> > the city and county to replace the "ice plant" at a cost of 1.5 million
> > dollars or it is no deal.
> >
> > So if M$ moves into the city, there has to be some advantage to M$, since
> > I bet that the property taxes are higher than the old location.
> >
> >
> > On 02/17/2017 09:43 AM, H. Stoellinger wrote:
> >
> > > Well, from what I know, Microsoft moved offices from the area outside
> > > Munich into the town.
> > > Whether this had an influence on the decision of the city council? God
> > > only knows;-)...
> > >
> > > Am 2017-02-17 um 15:25 schrieb M Henri Day:
> > >
> > > > 2017-02-17 12:21 GMT+01:00 message <letter@openmailbox.org>:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a trail of money between m$ and munich?
> > > > > https://diasp.eu/posts/5166693
> > > >
> > > > ​I know of no evidence, but if one is adept at avoiding taxes, money
> can
> > > > be
> > > > saved to use for other purposes :
> > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/10/how-
> > > > microsoft-avoided-billions-in-taxes-and-what-the-gop-says-
> > > > theyll-do-about-it/..
> > > > ..
> > > >
> > > > Henri

​Tom, there have been a plethora of articles on München's decision to
switch back to Microsoft, and one of the important factors seems indeed to
have been a change in the municipal administration. But from what I
understand it was not a new «conservative» ​
-
​ i e, CSU​
-
​ majyr that pushed for this change, but a Social Democrat​
​ (SPD), Dieter Reiter (
https://www.techworm.net/2017/02/first-linux-flag-bearer-munich-dumps-linux-windows-10.html)
:

«All Munich city computers were running on Linux. However, the 2014 arrival
of a new lord mayor, Dieter Reiter of the Social Democratic Party (SPD),
spelled trouble for the flagship scheme. Reiter wanted the city to move
back to Windows and commissioned a report from consultants, including
Microsoft partner Accenture, which said
<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-pioneer-munich-debates-report-that-suggests-abandoning-linux-for-windows-10/>
staff should be given the option of using Windows 10 and Microsoft Office.

Now the administration’s Windows move will be put to vote and if approved,
Munich’s desktops will be running on Windows 10 all the way. In the
interim, the committee suggested, city workers should still be able to run
Windows or LiMux as they choose.

“The mayor was against free software from the beginning,” said Matthias
Kirschner, the president of Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). “When
he was elected, he took pride in getting Microsoft to move their office to
Munich [a move that took place last September]. He even gave this study to
Accenture, which is a Microsoft partner.”»

Our friends at the Foundation will no doubt have (some of) the details....

Henri

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