Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more
and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of
moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find
particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session.
Thank you.
RG.
Le jeudi 02 février 2017 à 17:16 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit :
Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put
a
stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).
Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for
which
she seems singularly un-qualified?
On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Anne-ology,
You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However,
when
we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list
moderation.
When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator,
not
to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has
a
specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but
is
much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me
restate
it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which
means:
- finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to
the
mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list
(NOT
REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
- rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always)
involves:
- adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their
owner
- helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
- reminding everyone to be courteous
- following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and
reminding
mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more
the
broader meaning of "moderation".
In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
technical management. It also implies that you know how to post
properly
and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From
my
perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that
you
perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions
which
would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is
no
need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date,
time,
etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of
the
thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new
thread
"Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated
with
the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this
for
each one of your reply.
Below is one page belonging to another community that may be
helpful to
you:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Hope this helps,
Charles
(who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :
Do you know what moderation means?
moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes,
especially in
one's behavior or political opinions"
From: toki <toki.kantoor@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
To:
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good
that
The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_
within the
message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.
That is basic moderation 101
jonathon