Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

+1

Gordon.


On 03/02/17 13:12, Remy Gauthier wrote:
> Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more
> and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of
> moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find
> particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session.
>
> Thank you.
>
> RG.
>
> Le jeudi 02 février 2017 à 17:16 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit :
> > > Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put
> a
> > stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
> > delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).
> >
> > > Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for
> which
> > she seems singularly un-qualified?
> >
> > On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > > Anne-ology,
> > >
> > > > > You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However,
> when
> > > > > we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list
> moderation.
> > > > > When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator,
> not
> > > > > to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has
> a
> > > > > specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but
> is
> > > > > much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me
> restate
> > > it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
> > > > > mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which
> means:
> > > > > - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to
> the
> > > > > mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list
> (NOT
> > > REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
> > > - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
> > >
> > > > > Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always)
> involves:
> > > > > - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their
> owner
> > > - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
> > > issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
> > > - reminding everyone to be courteous
> > > > > > > - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and
> reminding
> > > mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
> > >
> > > > > Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more
> the
> > > broader meaning of "moderation".
> > >
> > > In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
> > > > > technical management. It also implies that you know how to post
> properly
> > > > > and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From
> my
> > > > > perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that
> you
> > > > > perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions
> which
> > > > > would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is
> no
> > > > > need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date,
> time,
> > > > > etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of
> the
> > > > > thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new
> thread
> > > > > "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated
> with
> > > > > the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this
> for
> > > each one of your reply.
> > >
> > > > > Below is one page belonging to another community that may be
> helpful to
> > > you:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Charles
> > > (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :
> > > > Do you know what moderation means?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >         moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes,
> especially in
> > > > one's behavior or political opinions"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > From: toki <toki.kantoor@gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
> > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> > > >
> > > > On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good
> that
> > > > > > > The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_
> within the
> > > > message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.
> > > >
> > > > That is basic moderation 101
> > > >
> > > > jonathon


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