Re: [libreoffice-users] background images in business cards

On 21/12/16 06:25 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> On 21/12/16 22:56, Gary Dale wrote:
> > This is ridiculous. I've just been reading a question from a 2008 (3.2)
> > version of OpenOffice.org that is the same as my current problem. Namely
> > that you can't place images in the background on a business card.
> >
> > I'm using LibreOffice 5.2 (Debian) and when I insert an image, it
> > refuses to go behind the text whether I select Arrange | Send to back or
> > Wrap | wrap through. It will go behind the text if I select Wrap | in
> > background but then it disappears. And no, before you ask, the paragraph
> > fill is set to none.
> >
> > I finally found a setting in Format | Page | Transparency where setting
> > the transparency to 100% worked. Strangely the original setting was 50%
> > which resulted in the background image being hidden completely. A quick
> > experiment revealed that ANY setting other than 100% hid the background
> > image.
> >
> > I have no idea what this "feature" is for but it seems completely
> > unintuitive and in conflict with the paragraph background setting, not
> > to mention the wrap in background feature.
> >
> > So my beef is:
> > 1) Arrange doesn't appear to work on labels,
> > 2) wrap through doesn't appear to work on labels,
> > 3) there seems to be a page background that is in front of any
> > background image,
> > 4) the transparency setting for that page background only has two values
> > - 100% or opaque, and
> > 5) this situation has been around for at least 8 years without being fixed.
> >
> > Why can't the developers address these basic problems?
> If you use a table for your layout then placing an image in the
> background behaves as you would wish. Sadly LibreOffice uses a
> frame-based layout for labels and that might be where your problem lies.
>
> I do not experience problems with my Avery business card stock using the
> table based approach.
>
> Peter HB
I am using Avery business card (5371 - white letter size) template.

I gather you are suggesting creating a table to do the layout rather 
than simply using the normal paragraph/text tools. That would place the 
table above the graphic background, obviating the problem instead of 
fixing it.

Given that it doesn't work this way when creating, for example, 
letterhead, I still fail to see why this should be treated as anything 
other than a long-standing bug. I created letterhead for the same 
organization using the same graphic and Wrap through and Wrap in 
background both work. Wrap through has the image above the text while 
wrap in background has the text above the image. Page transparency is 
irrelevant.

Perhaps the developers have some reason why the user experience for 
these two similar types of documents should be so different but It 
strikes me as a flaw in the user interface that should be fixed.

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